Featured Fine basket: Haida?

Found this great score today.

Invaluable shows one that matches it pretty perfectly, ID'd as Tlingit or Haida.

American Indian Baskets by Turnbaugh and Turnbaugh (2013) has a similar basket on page 167 ID'd as Haida.

Of course, people here are the real experts! Any help and comments appreciated!



Online one:

 

Chinese rush basket...... 1980's or later....much later.....

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...Haida basket................. spruce root........ notice the difference in the weave and fibre .......

 

Sorry Charley ...

 

Dang! Ok. Thanks for the ID.

 

I've seen more Chinese rush baskets identified as Haida / Tlingit / NWC baskets.... than I have real ones identified as such....

It's a common web error !

 

Wait--- errors on the web?!?

Well, error on my part too. I should have looked more closely at the materials.

Still a finely woven basket, for which it won't be hard to get my money back.

Thanks again Komo!

 

I got nailed for one of these several years ago at an auction. I thought the basket was so pretty and no one was really bidding it up so I won it. When they handed it to me, I turned it over and there was a Made in China sticker on the bottom, LOL. I should have been more thorough at the preview.

 

Still a dang pretty basket Pott.

 

the earlier ones had more color.......

 

I remember those, I had one when I was a kid.

 

Thanks bosko!

And I see those ones all the time, and probably wouldn't make a mistake on them...

 

Two main

points to watch out for. The Chinese ones use a different stitch, which is longer, rather than square-shaped. And since they were designed to be shipped nestled together, in a bundle, the inner ones had this distinctive small, flat handle, while the outside ones had a knob-shaped one, similar to the Haida.

The mistaken identity is so common, that I wouldn't be surprised if an AI identification mistakenly identifies this as Haida, despite the fact that sweet grass isn't native to the area where the Haida lived. It's native to the Gulf Coast and Atlantic states. But that's a whole different different mistaken notion. Many different species are identified as "sweetgrass" when one really doesn't know!

 

The original label also contains a common mistake. Sweetgrass is native to the Gulf Coast and Atlantic states, not to the area where the Haida live. So many sources mistakenly identify any grass-related grass as being "sweetgrass." Just saying.

 

don't forget the Great Lakes....

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Sweetgrass (
Hierochloe odorata, also classified as Anthoxanthum nitens or Hierochloe hirta ssp. arctica) is a sacred, highly aromatic, perennial grass native to the Great Lakes region. Known for its vanilla-like scent, which comes from a compound called coumarin, it is deeply revered by Indigenous cultures across North America.