Featured Imari jug and Earthenware Creamer Identification

Hi, Thanks for the help on previous pieces which all were very accurate and helpful

These pieces I'm really stumped on and I have asked my dad but he can only guess.

They were from the same auction box. My guess is they are both English Imari (but doesn't look anything like Masons, Denby or Spode imari from my research, so I'm thinking another manufacturer).

The Circa 1840 sticker on the 4331 jug was on the piece when I got it from auctions.

The Earthenware creamer with imari band under the rim is bizarre to me, should have been unique enough to be an easy internet find, but couldn't find anything.

Have searched the catalogue marks into google, but nothing at all.

Any ideas as to manufacturer, origin and age?

Thank you

 

Only thing I know is I like them.By the way-just how many pieces were in this box ?
PS- Looks like a fine score.

 

A bizarre mix of Locally made wooden and stone birds, 2 Hongxian Nianzhi lidded pots, 3 franklin mint jugs, 2 modern porcelain and gold egg holders, Phoenix ware creamer, Imari Porcelain rabbit and bird, modern asian ware and antique things i have uploaded here

 

bloody hard to tell to be honest...but these bits (might) look worthy of a closer inspection

 

the 3 jugs at the top are franklin mint, theyre selling on ebay though 10-20 USD a piece despite their reputation, so there's a market for it.

below that is a NZ carved wooden bird, 5-30 bucks from local online boomer market depending on the day

the eggshell Blue lid pot is marked "Hongxian Nianzhi". So it is circa 1916-1930s. It is believed no "Hongxian Nianzhi" pieces were actually made during the Hongxian (Yuan Shikai) emperors 80 days reign. Chinese Republic Era porcelain is recently antique and collectible and the vases can fetch 100s of USD. This particular piece I'm not sure

bottom one is Saji China, made in Nagoya japan, Circa 1950-70s. a small lidded sugar pot

 

might be worth taking a look at the blue pot then....the glaze looks interesting anyway

 

yeah franklin mint ones do look good.....from a distance (probably why all 3 stood out)

their usually just nicely appearing modern reproductions of things if i remember (junk)

 

with these local auction lots....you gotta spy at least one decent thing (worth the price of the lot) and a sign thats there more nice things

cause 9 times outta 10........its the stuff clumped together that didn't sell in single lots

 

Your pitcher may have been inspired by Imari-style wares, but it is not Japanese Imari. The color of the clay body, as exposed in the chip on the rim, indicates it is not porcelain, but stoneware (or high quality earthenware). This would point to a European or English manufacturer.

 

I think both pieces are English and likely a Staffordshire factory. I find the brown jug more interesting of the 2. The imari decoration has a Gaudy Welsh vibe. The other jug seems to be highly decorated with pattern on the handle and inner spout. C. 1850 seems about right for both.

 

I doubt that you will narrow it down to a factory but the Imari is most likely English Ironstone second half of the 19th century and the other also English but more like early 20th century.