1825 Nathaniel Mills small box

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Steve Vamevic, Jan 17, 2026 at 3:50 PM.

  1. Steve Vamevic

    Steve Vamevic Member

    I picked this one up at a local estate sale here in Kansas City this morning. I've managed to learn a little bit about it after some online research, but still a lot of questions. Hoping some folks in this forum can help me out. thanks!

    It measures 7cm across and from the marks I believe it was made by Nathaniel Mills in Birmingham in 1825.

    Would it have been meant to hang around the neck by a chain?

    I think the coin holder is meant for a few sovereigns; it measures 22mm diameter. Does that seem correct? A few gold sovereigns seems like quite a bit to be carrying around. There's an inserted separate piece of metal that turns in there to block or allow the coins to slide out.

    I could only find the marks of NM, anchor, and script capital B after looking over it very closely. Are there other places on it that might have additional marks?

    Do we think it's solid sterling silver, or other metal, or combination of metals?

    Can anyone decipher the script monogram on the top of it? I'm terrible at trying to read those.

    This hinged separate and sealed storage area below the mirror isn't something I've been able to find online by Mills. Would this have been meant to be used by a woman, and would that have contained rouge or blush, or something like that ?

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking powder & rouge, carried over the wrist by an attached chain. Is the round compartment spring loaded? Seems like it would be difficult to get coins out without that.
     
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  4. Steve Vamevic

    Steve Vamevic Member

    Powder makes sense to me for the lidded side. And around the wrist seems more plausible than around the neck.

    That round compartment isn't spring loaded and it measures 22mm across and 11mm deep. Gold sovereigns in 1825 were 22mm diameter and 1.5mm thick. So it seems like it could hold 7 coins but that would have been a lot of money (a couple months of earnings for an average Joe) to be walking around with. That rotating and removable separate piece is what made me think coins, but agree the physics seem off.

    Also the box itself weighs in at 109.2g.
     
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  6. Steve Vamevic

    Steve Vamevic Member

    Maybe possible that it used to have a spring/platform in there that eventually failed and was removed. I have a vesta case from late 1800s that has that setup for a sovereign.
    The powder seems very likely, but I'm still thinking coins for the other side somehow. Face powder was definitely a thing in 1825.
    Also not outside realm of possibility that it's a counterfeit, but those marks seem pretty true to me. Odd that I can't find a mark for sterling silver though.
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    women then , carried coins in a purse..... not with their makeup.
     
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  8. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

    I think it is a great find. I agree that it once was meant for make up.
     
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