Tole tray/serving tray with stand

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by wcubed, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    I'm not really sure this has much much value, and it doesn't qualify as an antique. Vintage is a more appropriate term. Any idea of age or value?

    The nuts on the underside of the rubber feet are hex nuts, if this helps with dating.

    There's a couple small spots where the lacquer is flaking off.

    tole tray 1.jpg tole tray 2.jpg
     
  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is a marriage, and the lacquer tray is antique imo.
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The tray isn't metal?
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You can see a lighter colour where the lacquer has flaked off. My guess is papier maché, possibly wood.
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Not that I don't believe you, but can you point out where the lacquer has flaked off? I can't see it. And since we had trays just like this when I was younger (and they were metal) that's what I am seeing.
     
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  6. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is a metal tray, painted, and then lacquer. I'll take some closer pictures and be right back with them.
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Lacquer to seal the painted surface, right?
     
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  8. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    tray 2.jpg

    First picture shows one whole end of the back of the tray where the lacquer is off.
    Second picture shows on the front of the tray a small spot where the lacquer is flaking, also a couple small spots where the paint has come off completely down to the metal.

    I should have mentioned the size. It's pretty large compared to some trays I have seen. It measures 26 1/2 x 19 1/2.

    tray 1.jpg
     
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  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    But your original pictures did not include these angles, so AJ must have been seeing something else.
     
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  10. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure of the correct terminology for this tray. I would have called it a serving tray, but a little googling also came up with a painted tray like this that was called a tole tray, and googling that mentioned a tray that was painted and then lacquered.

    Then I also noticed a reference to papier maché trays, but I don't know if they are called tole trays or not, so I may have caused some confusion by my thread title.
     
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  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Tole is the term for the painting, regardless of what thing it is on.
     
  12. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    tray3.jpg That first picture I took really isn't a good picture for showing just the tray itself. Here's a much better picture.
    View attachment 214572
     
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  13. wcubed

    wcubed Well-Known Member

    You may be right. I assumed that the tray and the stand are of the same vintage, since I received them together, and on that basis I assumed the tray was of the same age as the stand. There is no way the stand is an antique, based on the hardware and rubber (unless that was replaced at a later time perhaps?).

    Anyway, looking at it again, the tray certainly looks older than the stand, though I understand that Toleware was briefly reproduced in the 20th century. I just don't know enough about it to say.
     
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  14. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    I remember tole trays on those folding stands when I was a kid, and have run into them fairly often over the years - googled a bit and stopped after finding over a dozen with very similar or identical stands (and some of those had the same rubber pads). I don't know if the stands were a common item sold for trays, or if they were sold with trays, or both (and I'm also no expert on dating toleware) - some of the stands had ill-fitting trays and seemed clear that they were a marriage, and one tray was wood (to me, toleware is painted tinned steel, but that definition has changed with time). The pic below, with no further info available, has a similar stand, and the same shape tray, with stenciled decoration - the OP's tray also appears to be stenciled with some added hand-painting...

    ~Cheryl


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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    This is one of the flaked bits I saw, it is in the lower part of the first photo:
    upload_2019-11-18_13-48-42.jpeg

    But it turns out to be metal, not wood or papier maché, so not as old as I thought.:)
     
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