Thoughts on still life of cucumbers HL Batss

Discussion in 'Art' started by jackolin, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

  2. 6rivets

    6rivets Active Member

    My first reaction: "How can somebody render cucumbers so well, and get the basics of perspective so wrong?"

    This painting would make me crazy, because I can't stop mentally redrafting the box.
     
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  3. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

    Watercolor, H L Batss. Could this be called Folk Art, Amateur? Set in Empire frame. Small square top nails holding it in frame. The name has been painted over a penciled signature. It might have been H L Bates. I do not think the scale is right for one thing.
     
  4. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

    6rivets, yes I agree about the scale - I am hitting and missing trying to figure this new way of posting on the new board. Sorry!
     
  5. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Maybe he/she was looking at a real box that was irregularly-shaped? If not, I totally agree that the perspective is way off.
     
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  6. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    The box screamed at me too :cool:
     
  7. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Well, Picasso never worried much about perspective!

    Just claim Bates was influenced by Picasso
     
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  8. 6rivets

    6rivets Active Member

    But Picasso (I'm thinking more Cezanne) consciously disregarded perspective. They knew how to draw perspective correctly, and then set that aside for their own aesthetic reasons. Pretty sure the pickle painter didn't have a choice.
     
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  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure the pickle painter didn't have a choice

    Well, no. But it needed redeeming somehow. :)

    And they do look like pickles, now you mention it.
     
  10. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    H. L. Bates, pretty sure. Amateur, I would think, but not folk art. Nice old oak frame. Yeah, perspective (not scale) is off, so it would be hard to look at for a long time! ;)
     
  11. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    He was never allowed to study for the painter's guild because they could not stand the prospect of calling him Master Bates.
     
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