Help With Arist On Monks Oil Painting

Can't take a good shot of the siggy but based on these images, any suggestions on the name?
Thanks

 

Why is that most art depicting monks, depict them drinking all the time? Occasionally you see them writing at a desk, but mostly drinking. I'm sure there's an explanation!

 

How else are they supposed to deal with all the sins they hear?

 

I will try to get a better photo but the dark signature on dark background and the oily surface makes it hard to capture. The light is only making it worse.
From this photo it looks like two names and the symbol or whatever it is at the beginning.
Not sure about the first letter but maybe K, like Kiel and then possibly the second name starts with R, Ria...?

 

I was looking at this again this morning.

Do the monks look similar to 1940s-50s advertising portrayals? I don't know how to explain what I'm talking about. The monks don't look like portrait pictures.

 

I agree, cluttered. Some kind of "historic portrayal." The one to the right holding up the candle to see the wine in the glass and smiling. The fellow to the left with the German-looking jug (I'm sure there is another word for it) looks anxious for a good reaction.

But why does to second one from the right have glasses on? Not a random thing, I'm thinking.

Just a total WAG - the discovery of champagne by Dom Perignon? (That must be spelled wrong, but I can't think of it right now.)

Fixed it.

 

They do have a certain period look. Not a period very long ago, I suspect, and 50s would fill the bill.

Given their apparent ages I say it was just as likely to be a urine sample they were inspecting. "Much less cloudy, Brother Martin!"

 

How about Christian Brothers in upstate NY?

 

Monks need glasses too

 

Of course they do. Not saying they wouldn't.

Just an unusual thing to include IMHO unless the artist was portraying a particular monk or group.

 

Perhaps he didn't read the part of the Monk's Handbook that stated "If you do it, you will go blind."?

 

Trappist beer is drunk out of such small glasses, especially in Belgium.

 

1950s style of painting, if you ask me. A remake of the standard old monk painting. These guys look much younger and thinner than the ones portrayed on German mugs.

 

looks like M. Spielmann.
could be cop. to the left, which normally means that the composition was made by the signer (but not nec. the figures).

 

Thanks. My conclusion is the same, M. Spielmann. It does say 'cop.'. So, what is that supposed to mean, a reproduction after someone elses art?

 

It does say 'cop.'

Part time artist by night, crime fighter in a tough precinct by day.

I pitched Cezanne and Lacey, a series about an art detective, to the studios, way back when, but they made it Cagney and Lacey and dropped the art.

But I did get a writing credit, and a few bucks over the years, more than I ever got for 'Underwater Vet' or 'Golfing for Cats'