Does anyone know this maker?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Marko, Sep 17, 2026 at 12:47 PM.

  1. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    I couldn't find this maker mark. And what can you tell me about the stones? Thank you.
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Toledo usually refers to Toledo Spain, a famous area for making jewellry and swords
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    There are no Spanish assay marks, and it isn't like any Spanish Toledo jewellery I've seen.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Turquoise , possibly from the Supernova and Aztec mines at Royston.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    courtesy , Out of our Mines
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The matrix on Marko's stones is much darker, and the turquoise is lighter.:confused:
    Gorgeous stones though.:)
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    could just be the photo......or your eyes ! :playful::playful::playful:..................:p

    the stone at the top right and bottom right.....
    same matrix , almost same shade..
    the photo is a professional one , Marko's , less so.

    I believe these are Royston , which ever mine they actually come from.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :wacky:
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    :kiss::kiss::kiss:.....:cool:
     
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  11. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    The stones are very light blue. I did use Google lens before I posted, there are a few Toledo Native American silversmiths.
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's also a surname. It's in use in the Phillippines, I knew a lady with that surname, and if it turned up in the US southwest I wouldn't be surprised.

    To me these look dyed, and brown matrix usually means magnesite. (like I'm some sort of expert) The OP's look like the real deal .
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I guess we can believe the GIA....
     
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  15. tagsale_notes

    tagsale_notes Member

    I can't help with the mine, that's well above my pay grade, but I can add the money side since nobody has yet.

    Toledo is a common Navajo surname and there are several working silversmiths using it, so a mark reading Toledo doesn't narrow to one person on its own. What it does do is put the piece in a bracket. Here is what signed Toledo silver and turquoise actually closed at on eBay in the last 90 days, dates included:

    Fritzen Toledo cuff, sold 13 Sep 2026, $279.99 (offer accepted)
    Eva Toney Toledo Mojave green cuff, sold 6 Jul 2026, $379.99 (offer accepted)
    Eva Toney Toledo turquoise cuff, sold 12 Jul 2026, $95
    Abel Toledo mens ring, sold 23 Jun 2026, $159.55 (offer accepted)
    Mary Toledo bear pendant, sold 3 Sep 2026, $159
    Abel Toledo stud earrings, sold 1 Aug 2026, $60.20
    Russell Toledo stamped ear cuff, sold 28 Jun 2026, $67.49

    Median of those seven is $159, and the spread is entirely about size, stone quality and whether the smith is known by name. So the Fritson Toledo idea upthread isn't far fetched at all, there is a Fritzen Toledo cuff in that list that closed at $279.99 four days ago.

    @Marko if you can get a sharper photo of the mark itself I'll run the exact spelling and post whatever comes back.
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought.
    Turquoise can be a very saturated colour, just like most gemstones. And many types of turquoise have a brown matrix, it all depends on the stone it is found in.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Tags, you are allowed to post ebay links here. In fact it helps if we see them, so we can check if styles and techniques are a match.
    Fritson's style is related but not exactly the same, but then again, artist's styles evolve.
     
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  18. tagsale_notes

    tagsale_notes Member

    Any Jewelry, glad to, here are the six with links so you can check the styles and stamp work yourselves. One thing that jumped out: the $279.99 cuff's own listing title spells it FRITZEN Toledo, not Fritson, so the family of work you pointed at looks right even if the spelling is off by a letter.

    Rare Vintage Les Baker Fritzen Toledo Navajo sterling and turquoise cuff, sold 13 Sep 2026, $279.99
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/304195885756

    Eva Toney Toledo Navajo sterling Mojave green turquoise cuff, sold 6 Jul 2026, $379.99
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/157958390733

    Mary Toledo sterling spirit bear pendant with opal and turquoise, sold 3 Sep 2026, $159.00
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/147398214193

    Abel Toledo Navajo turquoise sterling mens ring size 9, sold 23 Jun 2026, $159.55
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/317611122820

    Russell Toledo Navajo sterling stamped ear cuff, sold 28 Jun 2026, $67.49
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/397963883039

    Abel Toledo Navajo turquoise sterling stud earrings, sold 1 Aug 2026, $60.20
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/298537942073

    Median of the six is about $159. Looking at them side by side the money follows the named smith and the size of the piece more than the stone does.

    On the dyed stone question, I went looking for sold comps on dyed magnesite pieces so I could show the gap in dollars and came up empty for the last 90 days under that wording, so I am not going to pretend I have a number for it.

    Marko, if you can get a sharper shot of the mark itself I will run the exact spelling and post whatever it closed at.
     
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  19. Marko

    Marko Well-Known Member

    Close up, marks are worn
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