Thrift store woodblock

I can picture that. Maybe the artist used a photo?

 

I’m not sure why you necessarily felt the need to argue it in the first place really. Or why you felt the need to talk about me in a condescending manner as I wasn’t “there” in my own thread. You do you though and have a good day too. Even if I had not mentioned it in my post my first thought was that she looked Caribbean. That would lead me to believe she had a decent percentage of African ancestry. As I mentioned in my post she reminds me of a half Dominican ex whose blood line was heavily African. I spent a lot of time with the Dominican side of her family. I’ve lived in the Caribbean with Caribbeans with high percentages of African descent. I have dated a few women of Caribbean descent. While these people mostly identify as Latinas/Latinos they certainly embrace the fact they are mixed and that a large percentage of that mix is African. Some identify simply a black/African. If it makes you content to expose a perceived fraud then knock yourself out. I respect that you have a much longer history than I do here. I respect that you seem to have high level of knowledge in antiques. I’ve appreciate you’ve lent your opinion when I’m seeking information on items I acquire. I started posting here to learn from people that know more than I do as I’m just breaking into the world of antiques pretty recently. This seems very unfriendly at best though.

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Not sure would be able to identify her origins from what is present in the print, and she could just be a pretty American black girl, but for what it's worth, my first thought was a Filipina (some truly varied ethnicity found in the Philippines), personally can't really tell if that's a ribbon, a flower, or maybe even a heavy low bun (looks like the artist put all his effort into her face}; and while she could be wearing a cap-sleeve dress, it reminds me of some of the Filipino 'kimona' blouses, similar still worn.


I'm not saying she's Filipino, just showing some images to illustrate why it seemed like she might be to me...

1950s Filipino actress:



https://kahimyang.com/kauswagan/articles/1680/stars-of-philippine-cinemas-golden-age






A picture showing several lovely Filipina faces:




1950s kimona:



Modern kimona:




~Cheryl

 

Thanks for the thoughtful and rich reply. Filipina ladies certainly are lovely. I had a chance to visit there a few years ago. In addition to being pretty many had a great way about them. I was lucky enough to date one for a while when I was much younger, very nice lady. I guess this post has become partly me revealing my dating history now lol.

I wondered wether it was a flower or just a bun myself. It is very hard to tell especially with my poor photo.

The Kimona seems to resemble to me the top she has on. I see what you are saying there. It does look like something silk to me for some reason.

They definitely have a varied background. I’ve more than once mistaken a Filipino for a Latino. Not as much the women for some reason but that’s happened too. There were plenty of Latinos there at one time so maybe I wasn’t totally mistaken. There were probably Spaniards of pretty mixed race too so she could be both Filipina and have some African blood at the same time.

Who knows though, could be something no one has even mentioned yet. Unless myself or someone else finds out a lot more about Richard it will remain a mystery probably.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply and pull those images!

 

The lady third from the right in the nursing photos looks an awful lot like someone I know. Her father is southern Indian (native Tamil speaker) and her mom is Malayan Chinese.

 

Well whatever the young ladies story was she ended up netting me a $65 profit after all was said and done. I normally would have tried for more but just went quick on this one. She will be missed.

 

It seems pretty likely that the artist is the German born Richard Colin (1885-1971). Not much about him online, though he seems to have had a long career and done portrait heads with stripey backgrounds...

https://www.lbi.org/artcatalog/record/1684406
https://www.aaa.si.edu/search/colle...text.name.content:"Colin,+Richard,+1887-1971"

 

Thanks for looking that up for me! Another member had actually brought that link up too. I wish it had some examples of his work as well!

 

Yes, or the mind's eye. A woodblock carving isn't something you can easily find a model to pose for!

YAY!! I LOVE THE HAPPY ENDING!!

 

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS, I will check him out.

 

Wow, @antidiem , I had forgotten about this thread.

Descendants of Africans are everywhere.
In the 17th century the Dutch East India Company or VOC captured some Portuguese ships off the coast of South Africa. Turns out they were carrying slaves from Angola. The VOC couldn't take them home because Angola was Portuguese, so they took them and the ships to Java in the Dutch East Indies. There they freed them and gave them land.
They were called 'Mardijkers', from the Javanese word 'merdeka', freedom. Some became very wealthy as traders throughout Asia. They intermarried with locals and their descendants live in Indonesia to this day.
No doubt some are also found in neighbouring countries, like the Philippines.

And Indonesia and the Philippines are a bridge between Asia and the Pacific, which shows in their looks. On top of that, some of the people have clear Melanesian or Polynesian roots through seafaring, and their looks can resemble those of people with African ancestry.

Moluccans from the former Dutch East Indies in the Netherlands:

 

Interesting, thanks, AJ

 

Those crazy Dutch seamen really got around. (LOL)

 

They did.

 

A little more on Richard Colin (though unfortunately the writer's appeal for further information seems to have gone unanswered):
https://www.berlin.de/aktuell/ausgaben/2008/juni/suchanzeigen/artikel.223353.php

 

So cool! This piece may very well have come out of Mr. Wagners parents collection based on the info in the article!