Etched Glass Decanter Identification

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by dude, Dec 24, 2019.

  1. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Hi all,

    This decanter is about 9.25 in tall, 5.5 inch across the widest part, and weighs about 1.75 lbs. I don't have the stopper.

    Anyone know where it came from or how old it is?

    Is it accurate to call it: "Vintage Bohemian Victorian Ruby Red Crystal Wine Decanter Etched Roses Red to Clear"?

    What about the clouding inside? Do y'all think it is a dried liquid residue (maybe old wine?). What is the best way to get it out, or should I leave it to add to the vintage look?

    Thanks in advance to any answers to this post.

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  2. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    The color is a read stain and the decorating engraving. Likely the "Bohemia" aera. Very nice.
     
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    For cleaning, I would put enough rice in the bottom to cover about 1/4-1/2" deep. Add a couple of drops of Dawn original dishwasher liquid, fill half way with ammonia, top off with water. Leave sit by the sink and every time you walk by swish it. A week, a month what ever it takes.

    I don't think this is European.
    I think it is an American glass from the early 1900s.
    We used to call it etched. Now people call it copper wheel engraved.
    @Cherryhill
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I'd start with denture tablets, that may degunk it fast.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is beautiful, dude.
    Just a note, if it is Victorian, it is antique, not vintage.
    Don't know much about glass, but it didn't strike me as Bohemian, so I guess you're right. Beautiful colour.
    My first thought too.
     
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  6. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    A lot of different and interesting opinions so far. So is it:

    a)Victorian?
    b)Bohemian?
    c)American?

    Can I use my 50/50 or Audience Poll now? ;)
     
  7. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Will Windex product do for the ammonia or should I get pure ammonia?
     
  8. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I've not used windex so don't know.
    Some people can't tolerate ammonia it has a very potent smell.
    The denture tablet might be a good way to start, then if that doesn't work go to the stronger method.
     
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  9. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    You might even just use rice, detergent and water. It doesn't look like it is a really bad stain. Just gunk.
     
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  10. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    with all the stuff with a German connection you show: in the 1950s and onwards there was a German company that massproduced stuff in the Bohemian style, but never got the real deep red of the true stuff right.
     
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  11. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Lost me! What part of the thread was your comment in reference to?
     
  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    wooden dish ? well, it might be American.:)
     
  13. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    I think I follow your drift. I guess it's possible that items from said company ended up in the thrift stores, flea markets, estate sales and other venues in my neck of the woods, and I've unknowingly amassed some knockoffs. Possible, but not probable, given the gaps in time that I acquired them. Also, there are thriving communities of German Americans here in the Northeast.
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That could be it.
     
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  15. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Update . . .
    So I took Cluttered's advice about the rice, ammonia, water, and dishwasher liquid. After a few weeks of swooshing things around, and then rinsing and drying, there was much less gunk. Then I took a hanger and cut and bent it and wrapped a piece of rag around it and fed it in and out to grab what residue was left. This is as clean as I was able to get it. Much better!


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  16. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    I'd like to point out that the leaves are etched, not engraved. Just for accuracy's sake.

    Great job on getting it clean.
     
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  17. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Wish I could confirm if it's American glass, Bohemian, or Victorian so I can gauge value and list it properly if I decide to sell.
     
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  18. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    That cleaned up very nicely.

    I still think it is American early 1900s.
     
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  19. dude

    dude Well-Known Member

    Appreciate ya! Yes, it looks a heck of a lot better. However, I went back to get a picture of the bottom for you all and realized I've a bit more swooshing to do.

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