Indian painting?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Giuseppe65, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Giuseppe65

    Giuseppe65 Active Member

    Hello
    I bought this painting in a flea market. It is inserted between two glasses and has writings on the back. It seems Indian to me. What do you say? What era does it belong to?
    Giuseppe
     

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  2. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    that's neat !!
    We need a translator...
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Lovely painting, Giuseppe. They call this Mughal style, but most were made long after the Mughal period.
    But from which of the many languages written in Devanagari script? It doesn't look like Hindi or Sanskrit to me. Not that it is likely to be in Sanskrit, but just as an Indian reference.

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  5. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    I would suspect that at least part of that writing is upside down, since if one draws a line to guide their writing, they usually write on top of the line, not underneath it. Still can't make out what it says, but I can only stand on my head for a short period of time....

    And are you referring to Indian, as from India, or Indian as in indigenous people of the Western Hemisphere? It does resemble, a bit, the "flat style" painting taught by Dorothy Dunn at the Santa Fe Indian School, ca. 1930s.
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    In most Devanagari script forms the letters have a line at the top, like this: देवनागरी
    Most Indian languages are written in Devanagari script, some outside India as well.
     
  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    looks okay to me. the main part in Sanskrit is below the line, the accents and added syllables are atop. not sure though if it's Sanskrit because that's not used anymore.
     
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  8. Giuseppe65

    Giuseppe65 Active Member

    Thanks everyone for the help.
    Based on your advice and research done on the internet it seems that it may be a Mughal painting from the 17th or early 18th century.
     
  9. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    I'd check if the numeration on the back does correspond to Ayats or Surahs that were noted by an individual believer.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They continued painting in this style, and I suspect this is later. Is there a museum with an Asian department near you, where you can take it?
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Sanskrit is still used, it is even spoken by a very small minority in India. It is still written in all Hindu regions and communities across the world.
    But as I said before, this is unlikely to be Sanskrit. Many languages are written in Devanagari script.
     
  12. Giuseppe65

    Giuseppe65 Active Member

    This would also explain why the owner wanted to make the back visible. It is important, as sacred writing, as the painting.
     
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  13. Giuseppe65

    Giuseppe65 Active Member

    No, there is no Asian museum nearby. There are some auction houses with specialists in the field. I will try to contact them.
     
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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Got a decent Indian restaurant near?
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I doubt a painting with this subject has sacred writing on the back. Surahs would have been written in Perso-Arabic script, not Devanagari.

    The back could have been shown to make it more intriguing to a buyer.
     
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  16. Roshan Ko

    Roshan Ko Well-Known Member

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    Those circled in red are numbers. Could they be beginning of paragraphs or some verse?
    The box in blue is to show that it is written on half a side and some of the letters and words are incomplete or getting cut of
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Can you make anything of the text, Roshan?
     
  18. Roshan Ko

    Roshan Ko Well-Known Member

    no. Cant read it. I can read each letter but the words make no sense at all.
    May be they use devnagiri script to write another language. Not sure.
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is used for many regional languages, so it is always difficult to know which.
     
  20. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    But not really sure this helps......

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