Featured Dirk brooch or Kilt Pin Material?

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  1. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    2D0273E6-38A0-4386-A4F6-426A19CF60D1.jpeg 945D82E8-18AA-4739-8AEC-4E4B3AB08438.jpeg Hi Everyone,

    The is a faint 925 on this pin. What do you think the green is, stone or glass?

    Thank you for looking! :)
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I think it's too out of focus to be sure. Malachite, dyed agate & glass are all possible.
     
  3. i need help

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    C236DC33-6C1A-4210-8E43-3CF724946676.jpeg 60B5104F-EC25-470A-9AA2-C4B51F6D8D80.jpeg I tried some more photos. There is a darkish marbled effect.
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  5. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Thank you, Bronwen! :)
     
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  6. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    I see nothing that appears to be malachite.
     
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  7. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I forgot to do the cold test.
    It was cold at first, but warmed quickly, when I touched it to my face.
     
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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    To me, this does:

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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's vivid enough or banded for malachite. Possibly dyed agate. Not a skean dubh or kilt pin shape.
     
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  10. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Kilt pins usually use Scottish agate and local stones - maybe this piece isn't Scottish, just Scottish style? Old agate jewels are often unmarked ..would Scottish silver be marked 925? I don't think so but I could be off on that
     
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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's not really Scottish in style, even. Pretty, but marcasites would be all wron.
     
  12. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Ok Thank you, so it’s more souvenierish.
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    @i need help We really need to see the stone in stronger light. Don't worry if the metal is overlit.
     
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  15. i need help

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    2EAE5565-A36F-4944-957D-C3019FB01066.jpeg I’m almost wondering if the dark part is just glue holding it in, maybe?
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    What obb means is that the style is not Scottish. The use of marcasites points to a different, non-Scottish origin.
    The shape is not of a dirk, more like a basket-hilted claymore, but just not right. Similar basket-hilted swords were used in Continental Europe.
    Sabre, sword and dagger jewellery was very popular during certain periods of Western jewellery history.
    I don't really see malachite either, maybe a dyed agate, or glass, as you considered. Is the stone slightly translucent when you look at it from the side?

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    Last edited: Feb 12, 2020
  17. Northern Lights Lodge

    Northern Lights Lodge Well-Known Member

    What a fun little piece! I think it isn't right for Scottish either. But it sure is sweet. What is the material under the "top"... the round part where the marcasites are?

    Leslie
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It looks like the same green stone.
     
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  19. i need help

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    43CE2C9A-FDD2-4D43-989D-B523830F7071.jpeg 66DE65DE-66AE-492F-9849-D51F13719171.jpeg Thank you for the replies. It seems translucent, so I guess it’s glass. :)
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It rules out malachite, but some agate can be translucent too.:confused: (Why don't stones carry an id card :banghead:)
     
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