Featured Glass decanter. 18thc?

This was described as 18thc. Is that the case? I don’t own it so can’t give any specifics. Just wondering how you would date it?

 

Possibly late 19thc or 20thc. Shape not produced in 18thc AFAIK.
Shape, cut pattern and stopper form is a good way to begin learning how to date them.

 

Glass is the wrong colour to be all that early. Georgian glass is greyish - unmistakeably so. I also agree on the shape being wrong. If you want to learn decanters, then Andy McConnell's book is the master work on them.

That looks as though it has glass sickness.

 

The simple gray cutting would day 1930's to me.

 

It kinda looks like a bell

 

I have been collecting decanters in the past, not so many now. Many moves made them hard to transport so most were distributed to family members who had expressed interest in them. I owned, still have some, Orrefors, Kosta-Boda and Steuben decanters, and quite a few Bohemian.

So having established a few bona fides I'd like to add my two cents: The stopper does not look original to the decanter. An original stopper would have been shaped more in line with the bottle. This one looks utterly wrong, too angular to go with the rest. Just my humble opinion but I think it's a "marriage of convenience".

 

Liz, I had the same thought, but for a different reason (tho I agree that it "looks odd"...)

For me, it's more the part of the stopper that hangs down below the ground area inside the neck of the bottle. It just doesn't look right (and almost looks as if it could be plastic...)

 

https://www.ebay.com/i/333564302935...llIIssp6aoiFtr4we6ZP6FpbjwFj6lohoC9SQQAvD_BwE
Here is something similar, although a bit plain.

 

I thought it looked like a very strange combination too!

 

Wasn’t sure if it was rubber or glass but I noticed that too and wondered about it.

 

Thanks I did not believe the description at all. If it was correct then I really needed to figure out why and how one could tell though. Still should learn more about how to determine age but glad my instincts were correct here.

 

great tip thanks. Glass sickness?

 

That is a descriptive term applied to a piece of glass that has been permanently etched by some type of liquid that is left inside for a long period of time. It appears to the naked eye as being cloudy or just a little dirty, but try as you might it will reappear once it dries.

Some folks have said that CLR or denture tablets help, but I have not had any success with either method & will usually avoid any cloudy glass like the plague unless it is something very desirable or extremely cheap.

 

Hi Peggy,
I have several old and very old decanters with glass sickness. I clean them out and pour heavy mineral oil from the drug store. Turn them upside down and let them drain for an hour or so and then turn them upside right and replace the top. They will magically look wonderful for several years or until they need "reoiled". I have saved them being thrown away.
greg

 

I meant to add that tip to my post, but forgot totally.

Thanks for adding it to this discussion!

 

I don't have a problem with the stopper, looks ok to me and just as an aside, Georgian glass isn't always grayish.

 

This is not A Heisey Decanter. Having said that, Heisey did make one simialr in shape, the bottom had more form to it than this one, Paden City made one, too. Heisey's had a very very similar stopper. The stopper was used in a number of Heisey decanters.

 

I wonder if the person who wrote the ebay one thought this was from the 1800s so called it 18th C. Which we all know is wrong. However, not everyone understands what 18th C, 19th C means.

Looks 1930s or later to me.

 

Bet that stopper wobbles.