Name for tray

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  1. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Other than tarnished. mer 001.JPG mer 003.JPG mer 002.JPG Wilcox. Patent Aug 27 1878. Big part is 10-1/2 inches across.
     
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  3. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I thought it was a samovar tray! But your thing is much better!
     
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  4. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    What is a fairy pot? Simply a small sized one?

    EDIT: Aaaah, I see, the ebay listing water pot actually has a fairy design! :facepalm:
     
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    Lol, I thought it was like a Spirit tea kettle.
     
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  6. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Interesting suggestion, but not a spirit kettle because those usually hang from a stand - this one has nothing to hang from.
     
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  7. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    The design of your tray looks Japonisme' to me, circa 1870's perhaps?
     
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  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Yes, Darkwing - patent date of 1878 is in Terry's OP. Also referred to as Aesthetic Period.
     
  9. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The piece with the fairy is not a pot, it's a pitcher - appears to be insulated, with a hole in the bottom to release condensation and a small interior lip, so was likely sold as an 'ice pitcher' or 'ice-water pitcher', rather than a plain 'water pitcher'...

    ~Cheryl
     
  10. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    I think that marriage is a joke. None of the three go together. This has zero wear where a pitcher would have been if that was the purpose.
     
  11. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I missed that bit, crouching under the photo!
     
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  12. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    I agree, it's a marriage. The seller did indicate as such. But I did find one other water pitcher, tray and goblet set with this configuration, but the photo is poor and I can't tell if the patterns matched. The majority of water pitcher sets I have seen are tippers. Hellish to re-sell, I have one sitting on my back shelf that I can not move along.
     
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  13. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Possibly may have had glass dishes that would have set in the 2 areas for something that had a sauce accompaniment. ???
     
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  14. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

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  16. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    It's a water set tray - this particular shape is more common with the tilting ice pitchers, but have seen ones like this before...


    Here is a Tufts set with similar tray and matching pieces engraved for an 1887 anniversary - they could have goblets, tumblers or cups (sometimes two), and occasionally a waste bowl too: https://www.rubylane.com/item/378674-2015017/Antique-James-Tufts-Quadruple-Silverplate-Water


    waterset-tufts-1887eng.JPG


    Here are some water sets from an 1891 retailer's catalog:

    watersets-hibbardetc1891cat.JPG



    Though the illustration seems to have little to do with this tray, the Wilcox-assigned patent for that date is for an "Improvement in Waiters", "...consisting of of a principal tray and an auxiliary tray elevated above the principal tray and set back from one edge of the principal tray, substantially as described."


    patent-207475-wilcox-1.JPG

    patent-207475-wilcox-2.JPG


    Guessing the tray on this tilting water set from a Wilcox catalog is more in tune with the patent, the goblet tray elevated from the well under the pitcher:

    waterset-tilting-wilcox-late19thcat.JPG


    ~Cheryl
     
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  17. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    Slightly OT, but check out this fabulous pattern!
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