Amber wine bottle, old or just vintage ?

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  1. Calico

    Calico Well-Known Member

    Hi Everyone. I have some experience with antique bottles, I used to dig them with my brother as kid many years ago and know the basics. That said, I'm second guessing myself with this one.
    At first glance I thought 'vintage wine bottle' but the more I looked at the more I questioned that, I do think it's a wine bottle but maybe 1800's and not 1970 ?
    Measures almost 9" high, slight push-up with polished pontil, applied lip and looks BIM.
    Very faint mold seam that disappears just above the shoulder.
    Dimpled, wavy glass with a few bubbles.
    What do you folks think ?

    bottle1.jpg bottle2.jpg bottle3.jpg bottle4.jpg
     
    Calico, Oct 25, 2014
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  2. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    It looks BIM to me. Continental, circa 1880-1920. Almost certainly antique, most likely pre 1900.
    There's no pontil. Just a smooth base.
     
    42Skeezix, Oct 25, 2014
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  3. Calico

    Calico Well-Known Member

    Thank you Skeezix, I appreciate it. I think it will look nice in my window with the rest of my collection. Nice color with the light through it.
     
    Calico, Oct 25, 2014
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  4. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Would it be called a wine flask bottle? I love old bottles too.:cat:

    What is BIM???
     
    spirit-of-shiloh, Oct 26, 2014
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  5. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    I *think* BIM = Blown In Mold.
     
    Messilane, Oct 26, 2014
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  6. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    That makes sense thank you :)
     
    spirit-of-shiloh, Oct 26, 2014
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  7. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    This is your basic bottle nomenclature..

    ABM= Automatic bottle machine. (1906-present)
    BIM=Blown in mold (1885-1906)
    BIMAL=Blown in mold, applied lip. (1855-1885)
    BIMALOP= Blown in mold, applied lip, open pontil.(1600s-1855)
    BIMALIP=Blown in mold applied lip improved pontil. (polished or ground pontil,1600-present)
    Also BIMALIP=.................Iron pontil (Bottles only, 1840-1856)

    The years are approx. and there are exceptions and variances. For instance simple sheared lips were used on many American flasks pre 1850.

    This is probably more confusing than helpful.
     
    42Skeezix, Oct 26, 2014
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  8. spirit-of-shiloh

    spirit-of-shiloh Well-Known Member

    Tomorrrow I need to ck my bottles out side to see if I have any winners ;)
     
    spirit-of-shiloh, Oct 26, 2014
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  9. fidbald

    fidbald Well-Known Member

    I'd check if you find something comparable for Armagnac.
     
    fidbald, Oct 27, 2014
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  10. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Doesn't all that sound vaguely like it might be boxing terminology? "Blown in mold, applied lip, open pontil, left to the jaw..."
     
    silverthwait, Oct 29, 2014
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