Unknown Italian Painting

Hello,
I am looking for suggestions about where I could find some information on this painting, i.e. how old it it and who's it by. Its very big about 1.5 metres x 1.5 metres approx. I thought I could see some kind of signature/mark a few years ago but I cannot locate it again, maybe I need a better light.
I have attached an image of it.
The painting is in the same family in Italy for approx 60-80 years.

Thanks

 

Subject is Socrates and could very well be a copy of something.

Debora

 

Was Socrates known to have played a Lyre?
I can't find any images of him with an instrument.

 

Think it's a reference to "On the Soul."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaedo

Debora

 

Could be Homer, the Blind Bard.

 

I think you're right. Apologies for the mis-direction.

Debora

 

Things never change - the bloke on the lower left is checking his phone instead of paying attention...................

 

Ok, Homer and a lyre are closely linked. I like it.
Now can the painting be roughly dated?
Or can you direct me to a website or society which may be able to help or more?

 

I think, stylistically, it's mid to late 17th or early 18th C (baroque), but that's no guarantee as to when it was painted. Once a style is out there, anyone can copy it any time.

 

Hi and WELCOME, martinrome!! I see you've already gotten some help on your painting....Great!!! In the future, it would be a BIG help if you could post your images FULL IMAGE SIZE....brief tutorial shown below if you need it!!!! THANKS SO much!!!!

 

A photograph of the back of the painting will help with age. If you can get a close-up of the canvas or board on the back, even better.