Painting landscape, antique? Who is author?

Discussion in 'Art' started by SSlava, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    According to the seller, the picture is written on the blackboard.
    A new cardboard is pasted behind.

    The seller wants for a picture about 70-80 dollars. 5.jpg 6.jpg 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg
     
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  2. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

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  3. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    i need help and Christmasjoy like this.
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Interesting that you posted a link to a painting by Anton Mauve, a Dutch painter (related by marriage to Vincent van Gogh). Sslava's painting has a Dutch feel to me.
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The signature looks like Reinders, there were several Dutch painters by that name.

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  6. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Thank you, but where can I find them?
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Most of them are just a mention on an old newspaper page or a genealogy site, like Reinders - painter. No use at all. Reinders is quite a common name in the north of the Netherlands.

    The best known Reinders is W.F. Reinders, who is not even widely known. He is known primarily as one of the founders of an artist group called 'de Ploeg', but his paintings rarely show up anywhere. I can't confirm that he is your Reinders, the signature and style are different, and the quality of his work is higher than the painting you showed. He signs with W.F. Reinders and his work is generally expressionist.
    I found one painting by him which is different from his usual work, a landscape in the dunes on one of our islands. There is some resemblance in the way he painted the sky, but that is all.
    It sold for slightly over the price of the one you showed.
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    Different signature:
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    https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/445443-w-f-reinders-1881-1960
     
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  8. AuDragon

    AuDragon Well-Known Member

    Hi SSlava. This looks like better value to me and is probably the nicest of the paintings you have shown so far. Just a couple of things to look at. The frame is old, but has it been repainted? It doesn't seem to have the marks, scrapes and general wear I would have expected for a late C19th or early C20th painting. On the painting, has the paint peeled at the top area in the sky? (At the top, just off centre.)I think I can see some of the board showing through which affects the overall value. The picture has been remounted at some time, the tape and backboard in photos 2 and 4 I think are quite recent and not original. These are just things to notice. Having said all that, I think it is quite charming and good value to me at $70-$80.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is certainly charming, and a very nice subject. But I don't think SSlava can get the same kind of prices for his painting in Russia as you can in Australia. Antiques are generally expensive in Australia, to us Europeans anyway.
    If a better quality painting by a known artist sells for 90 euro on Catawiki (Dutch site, Dutch artist), I don't know if SSlava can make any money on this one.
     
  10. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Foreign paintings of little-known authors are sold poorly.

    Hardly I can what to earn, I buy for myself)).
    If I buy for $ 50, I can count on the fact that I can sell the picture for the same $ 50 quickly, without loss, if the picture is not needed to me.

    And about 80 dollars, what the seller wants, I doubt, and whether it's worth buying it)).
     
  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I doubt it too. To me it is one of those cases of: buy it if really you like it for yourself, but if you want to make a profit, don't buy it.
     
  12. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    You need to remember that paintings are very often reframed. The frame usually has very little to do with the painting.
     
  13. AuDragon

    AuDragon Well-Known Member

    Hi AJ, you are so right about the price of antiques in Australia. I almost cry sometimes when I see the low prices on some objects that members share on this forum. (Insert "cry" emoji three times here!) :joyful:
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is sad for you Aussies. I have suggested before to set up some kind of trade between members from the northern hemisphere and you poor Australian members.:D But from what I see on the forum, there are still bargains to be found in Oz.
    It seems we can send our carved brown furniture to the Middle East, by the way.
     
  15. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Well because of ruble exchange rate now not strongly cheap began to import antiques from Europe.

    And since we have companies that imported all the "junk" from Europe massively. Today I do not know how profitable this business has become. People have less money, and prices are twice as expensive as steel, because of the ruble exchange rate.
     
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  16. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Well, before in the USSR so many European paintings, as now, were not in Russia.

    A lot of imported in 1990-2000 years. Often tourists buy painting as souvenirs and bring them here.

    Then they sell, maybe even cheaper than they bought)).
     
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  17. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    By the way, you can import antiques into Russia, but you can not take it out or it's very difficult to do it.

    Therefore, here more and more such things are accumulating from Europe and the United States.
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, Russians are buying a lot in the rest of Europe. We notice it here in the Netherlands as well. They are also buying property.
     
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  19. SSlava

    SSlava Well-Known Member

    Yes, there is such group of people in Russia. But in Russia most of people the poor.

    Well count if people live for salary in 250-1000 dollars?

    As I read, in Russia the biggest imbalance in the world. At one percent of the population of 90 percent of riches.

    I have no money to go abroad)). about 70 percent of the population never were abroad.

    other 20 percent were only in Turkey or in Egypt, in cheap resorts. To the countries of Europe to have a rest there is an opportunity to go no more than at 5-10 percent of the population of Russia.
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, we in Western Europe hear and read about the great inequality in Russia. Basically it is old Tsarist Russia all over again.
    And from what we experience overhere, the rich ones tend to be very badly behaved, they are very rude in shops overhere, etc. It always makes me feel sorry for the other Russians.
     
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