hand engraved ? iridescent copper cup

hi all again !!

picked this up at a boot sale, bought it cause of the copper irridescence

not sure if its old or not

would all that work be hand done ?,

thanks

 

I get an Arts & Crafts vibe but that is merely conjecture. I like it!

 

merely conjecture, i like it

i think ill use that one day !

 

i think i get an indian vibe, but that is merely conjecture

nailed it !!

 

Sure looks like. Nice thing.

 

Persian vibe here

 

What does the inside surface look like? It is not engraved,but chased or acid etched.

 

hi, the inside surface is flat, very dark

with two engraved circles near the top

 

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/TOP-QUALITY...HMIR-SOLID-SILVER-BEAKER-CUP-NR-/372248271972

 

A gorgeous cup, and yes all handmade. It is classic Kashmiri (Northwestern India), Indo-Persian style.
It is not engraved but hammered, a long process. I'm sure there is a better term for it.

 

Top notch info Aj, thanks for your time

i think it was 20p well spent !

 

Amazing. And it is antique, I would guess late 19th century, maybe earlier.

 

this one is more to the Persian side of things, they used those small flowers patterns.
are you thinking of the mughal style ? there the patterns are either finer or more abstract.
to make sure it is silver and has not only the much more common silver-wash: scratch the surface somewhere invisible (botton) and see what color is showing up.

 

oh right, are we thinking it might be silver ? didnt even ponder that !

 

I think it is copper, they made a lot of copper items in Kashmir, still do.

Indo-Persian is also called Mughal, but I'd rather call it Mughal if there is more of a definite Mughal style. This is traditional Kasmiri, which has a lot of Persian influence, hence Indo-Persian, or simply Kashmiri. Collectors know what Kashmiri entails, and it is one of their search terms.
I collect all three, Mughal style, Indo-Persian and Kasmiri, but good stuff is hard to find for the price I am willing to pay. I am Dutch, need I say more...

 

"I am Dutch, need I say more..." nono, those 20 p were probably already too much for a true Calvinist...

 

I am not a Calvinist, so those 20p would do for me. I would even pay more.
Having said that, we have a saying that in the Netherlands even the Catholics are Calvinist.

 

i was drawn to it, picked it up, put it back down, started to walk away

"you can have it for 20p if you want it"

"ah go on then"

 

By the way, don't polish it too much. Give it a soak in soapy water to remove the verdigris, maybe use a cotton bud or even a toothpick to remove any remaining verdigris. Then just buff it a little, you can use an old t-shirt for that, nothing fancy. It should be clean, but not look like it was made yesterday.

 

yeah i know exactly what your saying

think ill bring the copper out a bit

copper highlights if you will