Some antique framed portraits I need some help with

The line must have died out for them to all appear at a thrift shop.

Debora

 

Kind of sad if it did. Now I'm missing @Bakersgma . She would love this.

 

I love that third frame.

 

I've been missing her, too. She hasn't been here for a few weeks now.

 

She was born in 1879 and died in 1913 at age 33, according to the handwriting on the back. She is more likely to be a daughter of Ludwig, since he was age 75 in his picture, possibly taken in the 1920s-1930s. By the way, I found this entry in Find a Grave for a Rev. Ludwig Seibel. Think it's your guy, but haven't done further research. Born in 1856 and died in 1936. He would have been 75 years old in 1931. From what you've found in Familysearch do you think it might be him? He is buried in Sheridan County, North Dakota. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20692010/ludwig-seibel

There is no Katherina listed among his children, but Find A Grave entries are often incomplete. Sometimes this is because no grave has been located for a person. I notice there is a gap between the years the children attached to his record were born. The gap occurs between 1877-1883. So there is a possibility that he had a daughter born in 1879.

If this Find A Grave entry is not for your Ludwig Seibel, then I don't know. I still think the person in your photo, if 75 years old, could not have had a mother born as late as 1879.

 

The research i did so far is another Ludwig.
I have so far Katherina Seibel 1879-1913 Married John leonard Seibel in 1898. Ludwig John Seibel was born in 1899 and died in 1973 in California
The writing on the back of his picture reads when he died most likely not when the photo was taken or the enlargement done. I think that these crayon portraits were done around the date written on the top of Katherina's picture. Sept 1929 which would make him about 29 years old in the photo.form ancestors.familysearch.org

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55312223/john-leonard-seibel
John leonard Seibel
@Figtree3

 

Ok, I was assuming the name Ludwig mentioned above was correct. It makes sense that it would be somebody from California, since you live there and the photos wouldn't have gone far from their home. So Leonard, not Ludwig. And he was a Reverend, too?

 

It's interesting that John Leonard Seibel's mother's maiden surname was Reimche. (Wilhelmina Reimche Seibel, in Find A Grave https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/66721344/wilhelmina-seibel). She was married to his father Lenhart K. Seibel.

There is a North Dakota Seibel family in Find A Grave that includes a woman whose maiden name was Reimche. Katherina Elizabeth Reimche Seibel (1853-1933) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20743102/katherina-elisabeth-seibel
She was married to Heinrich John Seibel. They were born in Russia, and lived in Sheridan County, North Dakota, same as the Rev. Ludwig Seibel that I mentioned in an earlier post. So now I'm wondering if they were all related. All born in Russia and all born during the same time frames. I mean, Lenhart K. Seibel, Heinrich John Seibel, and the Rev. Ludwig Seibel were all born in the 1850s, as were their wives, who were all surnamed Reimche. Makes me wonder, but not enough to do all of the research to prove it!

Also, you mentioned Rev. Seibel's death date being on the back of his picture. I don't see that.

 

John Leonard is Ludwig's father and Katherina his Mother.
I am pretty sure the writing on the back
(at about age 75) was the writers guess as to when he died. That portrait is not of a 75 year old man?
Mikey

 

Quite possible...

Okay, I missed that you mentioned Ludwig John Seibel in your previous post. He is also in Find A Grave. An obituary for him was copied into the Find A Grave record. It mentions that Ludwig was a farmer for 45 years in Lodi. Not sure whether he was also a Reverend? But maybe.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55317004/ludwig-john-seibel

The Find A Grave entry also says that Ludwig John Seibel was born in Sheridan County, North Dakota before coming to Lodi. I wish that I had noticed this earlier. So I think that Rev. Ludwig Seibel of North Dakota was probably a great uncle (some say grand uncle) to Ludwig John Seibel.

Oh, and I think the other two pictures in your first post could be relatives of this family as well. The lady in the babushka certainly looks like somebody who could have come from the area of the world from which the Seibel family immigrated.