Featured Help to ID Blue Opalescent Hobnail Cologne Bottle

Hi everyone! This cologne bottle has eluded me. It measures 6 1/2" high including the stopper, 4 1/2" without the stopper and 2 1/2" diameter at the base. I noticed that the hobnails are round and the stopper was cut (?) at the bottom. also bottle has round shoulders. I found one on Etsy in clear and that seller says it's Richards and Hartley, Thousand Eye, from 1879. Do you think this is an original or a reproduction and if repro, by whom? TIA!

 

Wanted to mention that I checked Westmoreland Glass as this does look like one of their colors from the 1980s-ish. It didn't show up in my reference book. There was one in clear in sold items at ebay. Edit: the color I was referring to is Westmoreland's Brandywine Blue Opalescent like you see on Ring & Petal cake stands.

 

I think I figured this out. Westmoreland made almost this same bottle in English Hobnail with a more pointed stopper and of course, the different pattern, but the bottle is the same shape. So I looked at Thousand Eye again and Kovar's lists a TE-55 toilet bottle in 3 sizes that she says were experimental and the value is undetermined. She shows a photo (same base) with no stopper and says it only came in crystal. But clearly, this info must be incomplete. I think.

If it's so rare maybe I shouldn't have thrown away the 2nd bottle that came with this one. It had a big chunk out of the base and the stopper had been broken and poorly glued. It's now in the trash out on the curb waiting to be picked up. LOL!!

 

check Duncan Miller (this is an error at "R", as this listing is Imperial Glass)
Hobnail Clear (Pressed) Cologne Bottle with Stopper by Duncan & Miller | Replacements, Ltd.

or Imperial
Early American Hobnail Clear Cologne Bottle with Stopper by Imperial Glass-Ohio | Replacements, Ltd.

need to look closer

it is Imperial Glass; found it in the catalog under #742 Early American Hobnail

 

Don, the example shown on the R site shows the Hobnails that have like a crosshatching on them. This was on different panels (alternated with smooth hobnails) on the original Richards and Hartley TE pattern which is shown on the eapgs site. My bottle has all smooth hobnails. And Kovar does show one for Westmoreland in her book, Westmoreland The Popular Years.

Will you look at your Imperial catalog again to see if the crosshatching is on the hobnails? If so, then Imperial's version is different.

Thanks so much for looking for me.

 

I found an example of a toilet set on ebay from a seller I know and trust.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1650098508...MI6-DDvJbb8gIVoRx9Ch1FQQ8GEAQYAyABEgKrI_D_BwE

If you look carefully at this listing, the cologne bottles stated to be Imperial has the stippling on some of the hobnails that I was referring to above.

 

added an image from catalog to above. not seeing the 'crosshatching' or 'stippling'; I only see refractions/reflections of the pattern showing thru some of the hobs. Also, Adams as well as Richards Hartley Thousand Eye are arranged in rows and columns with tiny pyramids at the intersects.

 

Thanks, Don. I see the stippling on the ebay example on the link above and I saw it at another location as well. I went back to Kovar's and found the bottom of this bottle under American Hobnail with a different stopper. The stopper was from the TE line and looks exactly like the Imperial bottle above. But the color is so indicative of Westmoreland and they made a lot of items in American Hobnail in Brandywine Blue Opalescent. So that's the way I'm leaning . . .

 

I have a WG brandywine cake stand and see the resemblance in color. IG made their hobnail in blue, pink and green. found an example of a blue pitcher on eBay that looks like yours.
Imperial Early American Hobnail Hard to Find Blue Opal Pitcher / Jug | eBay

the WG hobnails I've seen have a much greater 'bulge' than these shallow disk hobs of IG.

 

Alrighty then! I am convinced that it's Imperial Early American Hobnail. Seeing is definitely believing. Thank you so much! Around here (central Ohio), many people took day trips back in the 70s and 80s to the glass factories in southern OH and WV so that fits too. My mom had me drive her down a couple of times. It was fun.

Still seems as if this one will be HTF. I am bummed that the other one was so damaged, stuff happens. Do you think I should get it out of the trash? LOL!

Again, Thanks! You're the king of IDs!

 

No clue, but when it doubt, get it out!

 

This has pretty much all the experts here save for our Peggy who is recovering.
@bercrystal if you feel better maybe take a look.

 

I am going to bow to a much more learned person when it comes to this bottle. I think @TallCakes has this one covered.

 

@ola402 could you possibly show an image to the TE-55 bottle from Kovar's book? From the WG examples of their Thousand Eye pattern the discs/hobs are a bit larger than IG and the edges of the discs actually touch each other, whereas the hobs of IG pieces have some space between them.

BTW, I did find that ETSY listing and it is incorrectly listed as R&H TE. I find it difficult to confuse Adam's and R&H Thousand Eye with that of WG; the former have the discs/hobs arranged in columns & rows with the tiny pyramids at intersects.

 

@TallCakes This is embarrassing. I took a photo of her reference book photo and it was very small. But now that I've seen it, it is hard to imagine why I got so attached to it. This one must be the small 3 oz. size. It's very puny. From the photo it doesn't look like much.

She said it was experimental and available in 3 sizes. In the photo someone put a decanter stopper in it and it looks ridiculous. Here it is.

 

thanks : ) I can see clearly that it's the WG TE pattern from the touching discs. thanks for posting...