Two marks I couldnt find

Hi everyone! I saw these earlier and couldnt find either mark. Anybody familiar with them?

The large jug even had bonnrhein stamped in which was drovong me nuts haha.

Thanks for any help

 

Bonn ceramics are not my forte, but I know the Bonn manufacturer Franz Anton Mehlem used several different marks. Maybe this is one of them?
@say_it_slowly ?

 

I just checked through the monogram section of Rontgen's book on marks, as well as the marks attributed to Mehlem, the section of mistaken marks, and the appendix, and didn't find the fancy mark there.

 

I think your jug is British, and that's a pattern name. Dudson, from memory, but don't quote me on that.

 

I didn't find it as a Mehlem mark yet either. Could we see the Bonn Rhein stamp?

I'm wondering if this is the correct orientation. HM Co or something like that
perhaps?

 

Sounds like were closer, thanks for looking at it. This seems like it should be so obvious.

 

Could we see the BonnRhein mark? I'm wondering if it's a portion of the impressed Franz Mehlem mark which sometimes are lightly impressed in the center like the last one shown below. If so, then possibly the mark you're asking about could be a retailer or something?


This is a similar type Franz Mehlem vase with the texture etc.


https://www.etsy.com/listing/107167...ase&ref=sr_gallery-1-2&organic_search_click=1



https://www.etsy.com/listing/103293...uery=royal+bonn+vase&ref=sr_gallery-1-5&frs=1

 

Bonn am Rhein. old Kanzlerhauptquartier for postwar years till the comniss went back to Berlin with their Mischpoke.

Toni Mehlem was certainly the best known outside Germany.
https://www.google.ch/search?q=bonn...WBFAQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1184&bih=527&dpr=1.62