Help with Chinese? Dish

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Deux Coeurs, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Another Chinese? dish from the same auction mentioned in my previous post (elderly gentleman with tons of Asian stuff). The colors aren't as vibrant as the photos depict; they're definitely more muted in person. It's 10.5" W x 2.5"H. What can you tell me about it? I know zip...just that I like it! Any help is appreciated. Screenshot_20211106-171712_Gallery.jpg 20211106_170924.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171222_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171315_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171414_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171333_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171355_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20211106-171253_Gallery.jpg
     
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  2. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    Same as the last one except the pattern is called 'rose mandarin' due the figures (instead of florals)
     
  3. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Thank you again!
     
  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Except that I'd carefully get that plate holder off ASAP. Spring-afflicted plate holders eat plates.
     
  5. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Will do!
     
  6. Francisco G Kempton

    Francisco G Kempton Well-Known Member

    The Dish has a Tongzhi shape and the orange peel of the porcelain if i recall was a by product of the lower quality brought about by the Opium wars. It is not in the Tongzhi style, and more famille rose style. Maybe mid 19th Century Tongzhi ?
     
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  7. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the info!
     
  8. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    @Francisco G Kempton, I checked into the orange peel texture and this is a quote from Gotheborg.com:

    "The Chinese term for orange peel is "ju-pi" (chu-p'i). "Orange peel" or "chicken skin" refers to the same glaze appearance and were named thus because the surface of the glaze resembled the texture of an orange peel or a chicken skin. This phenomenon occurs on Ge and some Guan wares as far back as the Song period. It also occurs on many Ming monochromes as well, particularly sacrificial red or blue. It became a deliberate design element during the Yongzheng and Qianlong periods seen mostly on monochromes (i.e. many copper red items) but did occur on other types as well."
     
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  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I don't see "orange peel" on this plate. Where is it?
     
  10. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Sorry for the delay in my response. I've attached a photo that shows the texture much better. It's definitely more difficult to see in the previous ones. 20211107_121208.jpg
     
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  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Interesting.
     
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  12. Deux Coeurs

    Deux Coeurs Well-Known Member

    Yes, I had never heard of it before...but that isn't saying much because I'm not well versed on Chinese porcelain. I just know I like it.
     
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