I worked it for myself, now tell me what I missed or got wrong

@Bakersgma; @Cherryhill; @say-it-slowly; @Ownedbybear; @Debora; @Fid; @evelyb30
I've tried filling the bottle with Turmeric (yellow), and blackcurrent juice, but the photographs are not much better than without.

Mark 1 Like a Sine wave but formed using straight lines.


Mark 2 Looks like a tulip flower or champagne flute, with roots below


In addition the embossed numerals as per the original posting. Parts of the glass look like old window panes, which could be caused by a chilled mould. No bubbles.

I have shown that it incorporates features of an old Victorian bottle, albeit using an American guide.

Several respondents have suggested it isn't old, but apart from Fid, with his suggestion the handle is wrong, and Cherryhill with the bottom serrations, nobody has told my why it isn't Victorian. Interesting about the serrations helping the cooling process, cannot see how it would achieve that.

Whilst I used an inappropriate guide (American) for a probable French bottle, I would surmise that the main thing wrong with it would the dates when changes happened. The semi-automatic bottle machine was a British development as one example, and it could have been a decade or more before it was taken up by other countries.

I've had my one Euro's worth of fun doing the research, but I really would like to know why I didn't get it right. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME. What factors suggest I was wrong?

 

You know... One way to test a supposition is to find a similar. With the search words "1.5 wine jug handle grape pattern," lots of new and vintage examples come up on the internet but nothing remotely like it can be found from the Victorian era.

Debora

 

Still using the SHA site so applies most specifically to American made bottles (it's the one I know best), check the handle on yours. I believe I see a mold line running down it.

https://sha.org/bottle/liquor.htm#Figured/Historical Flasks

"During the 20th century a wide array of machine-made bottles were made with molded - not applied - handles, the handle being incorporated into the bottle mold as an inherent part of the design. This includes wine, bleach, and other types of bottles including spirits. Click machine-made handled jug to view a close-up picture of a handled wine jug that was manufactured in 1960 based on the Owens Illinois Company makers mark on the base. These type machine-made handled bottles have molded handles with mold seams running the entire length of the handle on the inside and outside edges (pointed out in the picture). Click HERE to view a picture of the entire bottle.

Dating notes: Applied glass handles on mouth-blown bottles were an unusual feature added to some fancier liquor bottles primarily during the mid-19th century (1850s to 1870s), though a few were made to at least as late as the 1890s and at least as early as the 1820s (Wilson & Wilson 1968; McKearin & Wilson 1978). Handles on machine-made spirits bottles are relatively common on bottles made throughout the 20th century and are still observed today on large capacity wine bottles (i.e., "jug wine") though they are apparently not used much on spirits bottles (liquor store observation)."

There is a list of some US bottle maker logos and while I have no idea if this is anything like yours as yours is hard to see, here is one to at least view and an example of what it really looks like. No idea if they made bottles like yours either.

https://sha.org/bottle/makersmarks.htm

https://glassbottlemarks.com/bottlemarks-4/


https://www.ebay.ie/itm/165042280948?
hash=item266d4959f4:g:LmQAAOSw3opfkyTP

 

“Cherryhill with the bottom serrations,” The serrations around the bottom of the bottle help it to grip the metal conveyor belt as it is moved from the molding/blowing machine toward the annealing oven. They do nothing with regard to cooling, just help it to move along the belt.

When I said "Current Production" it could have been made any time in the last 60 or 70 years.

 

@say_it_slowly I've slept on information you gave me about handles and it is a spanner in my works.

Without doubt the handle has been made in two parts. The seams are wider than those on the bottle body, and where it comes out at the top there are stress marks.

There are no seams on the lip or on the base.

Is it conceivable that the vessel would have been constructed from an assembly of three components? A machine moulded body, neck and handle; a hand moulded base; and a hand formed lip. It sounds bizarre, yet I cannot accept that it is a one-piece moulding. Or can it?

 

looks like an old stylized drill tower for the oil industry or a high voltage mast.