WHAT ARE THESE 3 DIPLOMAS? CERTIFICATES? FROM SPAIN

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  1. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    I met Juan Carlos. We literally ran into each other while walking with our heads down in Bancroft Hall at the Naval Academy about 1960. He was very polite and we helped pick up the stuff we were carrying. He was fairly handsome then. He was a great sailor and enjoyed jockeying some of the sloops around at the academy. Interesting, he is a member of the SAR (Sons of the American Revolution).
    Patd
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you've just become more interesting !!!! :hilarious::hilarious:
     
  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That's interesting. Didn't know he (Juan Carlos I) was a member of SAR so looked it up. Not patriot descendent but his ancestor Carlos III supported the Revolution.

    Debora
     
  4. gerspee

    gerspee Well-Known Member

    So much explanations but nobody told you that you're now the owner of Spain with these papers :happy:Must be jealousy :angelic: from them
     
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  5. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Here are the stamps on the back of the 2 Franco pieces.
    PS - I looked at both - front & back - and all the signatures look hand written to me.
    DIPLOMA LARGE 1st ONE 3AA.JPG DIPLOMA LARGE 1st ONE 4AA.JPG
     
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  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Look at Franco's signature on 2nd order - the second F trails down into the sentence below it, while the first doesn't - hand written?
     
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  7. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    My vote is autopen. This is a quick job and I had to make adjustments for different angles of pics.

    Of course, it can't hurt to have it checked out by someone with expert knowledge on sigs/autopens.

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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    In 1975, Franco died of Parkinson's from which he had been suffering for many years.

    Debora
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    And when I went to Catalunya, a few weeks later, they were already changing the street signs from Castellano to Catalan and you heard the language being spoken openly.

    Old joke. A man buys a copy of El Pais from a Barcelona paper seller every day, stares at the front page for a moment and throws it into the bin immediately. This goes on for years. Eventually, the paper vendor's curiousity gets the better of him and he asks the man why he does this.

    "I'm looking for the obituaries". He replies.

    "But those are on the back page?" says the newspaper man.

    "NOT THE ONE I'M LOOKING FOR!"
     
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  10. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I am going to put these on eBay - which is the order of Isabella & which is the civil merit? (they 2 first ones (Franko) look the same to me!)
    Thanks all
     
  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The end of the third line has the name of the order. It will either say Isabel la Catolica or Mérito Civil.

    Debora
     
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