Late Victorian genre painting. Who's the artist ?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Golgatha, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    I've put that frame and two others up for sale on dba.dk, antikviteter. You'll have to come to Denmark to buy it. See you then ...
     
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  2. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    The painting itself looks pretty amateur. I think someone tried to make the painting look old by copying of a old picture and stuck the painting in a old frame. The painting lacks detail. I think the frame would be worth more than the painting itself.
     
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  3. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    The girl is painted accurately but the background a little blurred. Probably inspired by the photographs of that time.
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The "blurring" is atmospheric perspective, a painting technique designed to create a sense of depth. You can see it (famously) used here.

    Debora

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  5. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    If I could, I would travel for that frame. :)
     
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  6. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    Debora, hardly atmospheric perspective in a library. My guess would be inspiration from photos. Have you figured out who the artist is ?
     
  7. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    @Golgatha , do you have any information on the provenance of this painting? Maybe there would be clues in the ownership history that could lead to determination of who the artist was.
     
  8. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    Sadly no. I bought the painting at an auction and - as you know - auction companies are discrete about who put things up for their auctions. The only thing I'm relatively sure about is an American or English genrepainter around 1890-1900.
     
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  9. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Because there is no atmosphere in a library? :joyful:

    Granted, the blurred library background isn't particularly skilled, but here's an example that might better portray the use of atmospheric perspective indoors.

    The Anatomy Lesson of Dr Nicolaes Tulp (Rembrandt)

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  10. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    Rembrandt has very little in common with an American or English genrepainter from around 1890-1900.
     
  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Well that took a weird turn.
     
  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Is the panel solid, or is it plywood?
     
  13. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    In an earlier post he said the panel was mahogany.
     
  14. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    I couldn't have said it better ...
     
  15. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I want to ask you what you meant by the above statement and at the same time, I don't want to engage you further.

    It's a real pickle.
     
  16. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    What I meant was that in 'Mona Lisa' there's an endless perspective in the background. In my genrepainting there's a short perspective in a library. Big difference.
     
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  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    And what I meant was you can't rule out atmospheric perspective because of "short perspective in a library."
     
  18. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Just say "atmospheric" and drop "perspective" and all will be well.

    Personally, I don't think either applies and would just say "loosely painted".
     
  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I think "loosely painted" is more than fair.
     
  20. Golgatha

    Golgatha Member

    Feel free to return when you've identified the artist.
     
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