Featured A bit puzzled, is this period William & Mary or?

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by Richard C, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Richard C

    Richard C New Member

    I've been puzzling about this recent acquisition of mine and need some objective opinions. The piece is hand carved walnut, and uses mortice and tenon construction. The form and the Spanish feet look correct. There is what looks like genuine wear for a well cared for piece. There is some wormwood damage mostly on the underside, which if someone was faking something I would think would have been made so this showed on the top, not hidden underneath. The turning seems out of round to the hand but I don't have calipers to measure that. There are two numbers on the bottom, one applied after sanding a bit of surface and the other stamped. I don't think either are original to the piece and appear to have been done at different times. The fonts look 19c. I've peeled back the covering and the stretcher edges look unworn enough stool1.JPG stool2.JPG stool3.JPG stool4.JPG stool5.JPG for an old piece and I don't see the mortice and tenon joining there, so I know upholstered things get pretty chewed up with re-upholstering and they may have been replaced. Please look at the pics and let me know what your think. Thanks
     
  2. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Welcome Richard. Beautiful stool.
     
  3. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    I'm getting a southern U.S. feel from this, i.e. New Orleans, ca. 1850-70 or so. This looks like something Prudent Mallard would have imported from France or perhaps made in his shop.

    Beautiful!
     
  4. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    No, isn't period William & Mary. Guesses late 19th century revival piece, It's got the trumpet legs of W&M so in the style. Period W&M would be C. 1690-1720 or so.
     
  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That top though looks like something done in the 1930s/1940s.
     
  6. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    "No, isn't period William & Mary. Guesses late 19th century revival piece, It's got the trumpet legs of W&M so in the style. Period W&M would be C. 1690-1720 or so."

    Quite.
     
  7. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    It probably was reupholstered in the early 20th century, when needlepoint was commonly used.
     
  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I would guess an English piece, where are you, where did you get stool? And if english, probably Edwardian period in the style of W&M.
    Here is C 1900 W&M style stool/bench, english
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    A period William & Mary Stool, English C 1690

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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It could be later period Berlin woolwork, or as Ghopper said needlepoint, a term for similar embroidery after the Berlin woolwork era.
     
  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    William & Mary is a very interesting period, furniture wise. It left behind the boxy, chunky world of "joined" furniture built by joiners and entered the new age of cabinetmakers.
    William was Dutch and was basically invited to ascend the English throne as the brits were fussing about a bunch of stuff, religion primarily i think. He brought many new ideas from Holland, Netherlands & this style furniture is unique in many ways.
    Queen Anne followed a short time later & the furniture world never looked back, joiners were done building furniture after many centuries and the age of cabinetmakers began.
     
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  11. Richard C

    Richard C New Member

    I'm in the USA midwest and this was purchased at an antiques consignment shop that handles 'better' pieces. In the two examples given above by James Conrad, are either of those moritce & tenon joined? The needlepoint covering has some age but I don't believe it is original, and isn't much good for dating I think. In the US needlepoint was used a lot in colonial revival furniture and was still popular in the 60's for the 'traditional' look, but I don't see it much anymore. Thanks for all the comments.
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I should have been more clear. I didn't mean it was actually from Berlin.:) It was 19th century wool needlework according to printed patterns which were first published in Berlin. It was very popular in the US.
     
  13. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    I have no idea, they are english pieces from dealers in the UK, the period piece for sure is mortise & tenon construction.
    Your stool has the look of "container" furniture imported to america from all over Europe by the boatload. Once upon a time this was big business on both sides of the pond. Your stool doesn't look American to me, guesses it's english revival around the turn of 19th-20th century.
    The only way to date old furniture for sure is a personal examination by someone familiar with the period in question.
     
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