German Bakelite Zunderbuchse container with? Thanks!

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by jackolin, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

    What is the hard rubber thing that is in the old bakelite container? I can find the empty containers posted, but none with what is in this one? 1198.JPG 1197.JPG
     
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  2. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Dummy fuse possibly.
     
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  3. yourturntoloveit

    yourturntoloveit Well-Known Member

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  4. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

    not really - it is not showing my piece which is much smaller than the case and is very hard rubber, maybe it does not even belong in it??
    Thanks much for the link and looking.
     
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  5. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    It is a WWII German artillery projectile fuze container. The Germans had a standard fuze shape that would fit projectiles from 7.5cm to (presumably) the largest ones commonly used. Projectiles were pretty heavy and rugged but fuzes were more delicate, form that and safety reasons the two were always shipped separately and not assembled until near the battle area or at the battery where the projectile was to be fired.. Here's one in the inventory of a wonderful, reliable, and certainly most perfect vendor:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=476792821
    They also sell dummy, solid-steel "German" fuzes you can put in them if you like.

    The "1" and 2" indicate different internal shapes as stated on one of the links above:

    Regarding the difference between nr. 1 and 2.
    Have a look on the inside of both, if they are complete you will see that the cup on the bottom is longer in the nr. 2.
    Nr. 1 was for fuzes like Zt.Z. S/30, Dopp.Z. S/60, AZ 23 etc.
    Nr. 2 for shorter models like l.i.Gr. Z 23 nA or S.i.Gr. Z 23.

    So I think the cuplike separate piece was a kind of spacer to hold smaller fuzes in place.

    I've never had a no. 3 type, must be scarce.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2015
  6. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    "Here's one in the inventory of a wonderful, reliable, and certainly most perfect vendor:"

    Ha! Spring!
     
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  7. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for the replies and Spring for addressing the rubber piece.
     
  8. fidbald

    fidbald Well-Known Member

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