Featured Moving on to the Chairs

Okay so 4 days and about 40 hours searching the internet. I will welcome any ideas opinions whatever. The chairs that don't exist in pictures on the internet. Again these are in the warehouse so I asked my friend to get pictures so this is the best I can do until I get over there myself. Unfortunately when they got recovered someone used screws so frustrating. But I was hoping someone might recognize this type of dowel work or craftsmanship on the chairs Last 2 pics . AGAIN Thank you all for all your years of help. I do my best to figure out things myself but sometimes I just need help.

 

Oh and I did send the pictures To Brads but no response yet. I'm not sure if he received them. But I don't want to call and ask him. I feel bad about bugging him. I'm sure the poor guy has a life and will get back to me maybe but he is probably tired of me texting him pictures.

 

Not sure how you sent them but did not receive any pics. Late Victorian. Late 19th century and a bit of a hodge-podge style-wise. Not sure these are American. Not a typical configuration but really could have been made anywhere.

 

Oak ca. 1890 aesthetic movement with some classical influence. I like the attenuated backs seen in the profile pic. Different and worth holding onto, since you likely wouldn't get a whole lot for them, money-wise.

 

I think because of her last thread on that victorian server @DeAnne is referring to Bradford's Antiques? in Missouri who specializes in victorian furniture?
As for the chairs, I'd say ghopper is correct, late 19th early 20th century golden oak period, machine built, very little value these days.

 

Oh dear, Deanne is burning her bridges OR the burning bridges are lighting her way? Tough one when seeking info from folks you don't know. I usually just email as it gives the other party space to ignore which texting does not.

Agrees

 

In my defense I did email first waited no response so I called and asked if I can send pictures and he did say yes.

But I have a question on the Machine Made ? What exactly does that mean? Because the chairs are all hand carved. Sorry I have so many questions Furniture is not one of my strong suits.

 

OK, how long did you wait for a response & didn't you email pics originally? It sounds like you might be burning that bridge rather than letting it light your way.

Generally speaking, furniture built after 1850 in USA is machine made, which means, sawn, planed, turned on a lathe, sanded, etc all with machines, not made/built by hand.
Are you sure they are hand carved? They look machine carved in pics which would be usual/normal in the time they were built as they had machines that did carving as well.

 

I sent an email and sent a message on his facebook page but after 4 or 5 days I realized he hadn't even seen the message. So That's why I called. But no I did not send the pictures in either. In the messages I asked if I could send pictures. After doing more searching I realized he no longer has his store but still sells on Ruby Lane so that's why I called and told him what was up and all the different conclusion and he told me to send him some pictures and he would be more than Happy to take a look. Like I said in other post VERY VERY nice guy. I just hate to bug people. When I have all of you guys to bug.

But yes they are all hand carved they are all a different. What I have noticed with these pictures nowadays when you use your phone it wants to sharpen edges and clean up images even when you don't want them too.

Here are a couple of close up of the back pieces on 2 different chairs

 

Oh sorry I guess you need the pictures

 

What i do when seeking info about furniture from people i do not know is, carefully craft the text, VERY CAREFULLY, sometimes 3 or 4 drafts to get the language down in a precise way. No extra words, no fluff or flim flam, a tight vocabulary of precise nouns and vivid verbs helps you create strong mental pictures and avoid wordiness. As i'm often writing to academics, scholars or authorities on particular forms of furniture, they also write in that very tight text. It's short, direct and to the point. It's not conversational at all, just the facts ma'am.
I ALWAYS include good quality photographs, i want to attract them to the object in question and finally, i get their personal/business email address so i know it's going directly to them.

That looks like machine carving to me Deanne, i could be wrong.

 

I don't think it's machine they are to different the only thing that is the same is the design other than that everything is different down to the depth and the shapes and lines. I wish I had better pics.

 

OK, i'll take your word for it, photographs are notorious for missing details on furniture, i do not know why exactly. Fact is, the only way to authenticate old furniture is by personal examination.

 

I hate living where I do UGH there is only one person I know who would actually know and I trust for honest opinion His name is Frank actually a very good friend the problem is. He is almost completely blind now he has a very rare form of an eye disease. He now can only see things directly in front of him and within a inch of his eyes and even then it's hard.

 

LOL, where do you live?

 

California Central Valley middle of absolutely nowhere. Surrounded by AG land

 

UGH is right! as far as victorian goes. Well, you could always visit New Orleans! or Cape May on the NJ coast! Tons & tons of victorian houses with furniture to match, it would be a hike though.

 

Yes it would

The one cool things about here is i have some pretty cool neighbors LOL

The triplets were born yeserday

 

Very nice!
A couple Cape May pics

 

WOW SO BEAUTIFUL