Featured Help with antique drawing. Old master?

Discussion in 'Art' started by chantaljones, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    We've congratulated each other. Now, as INH said, where's OP?
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    In the art world, I believe copying is excused by calling it "referencing" instead. Along the lines of stealing an idea and calling it an "homage."

    Debora
     
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  3. chantaljones

    chantaljones Well-Known Member

    Bronwen and i need help like this.
  4. chantaljones

    chantaljones Well-Known Member

    I'm so sorry. I have only access to internet a few times a week, so can not visit this site on a daily basis.
     
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  5. chantaljones

    chantaljones Well-Known Member

    But I don't think it is by the artist, or am I wrong. I have compared the two pictures and some things are the same and some things are not.

    For examples face, his cane. But many things we exact the same like the angels hand on here knee and such.

    I assume they made some adjustments to the picture. Or is this after the artist made by someone else?

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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    You are right. To become a book illustration, someone had to translate the painting into a form that could be used to easily make multiples. We can not see your print at the level of detail needed to guess at how this was done for this print. An early post asks if you can see dots. An answer to this would be a start. I think it is probably an etching. Wiki gives you a summary of the types & techniques:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etching
     
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  7. chantaljones

    chantaljones Well-Known Member

    That's interesting to know. I was thinking similar but had to ask to confirm. I do know the differences between oils, prints, engravings, woodblocks, lithos etc.

    I had it out of the frame and you can see areas of the wash which has flowed out of the in pencil square marked border

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Really great photos. I can't see any of the telltale signs of any type of etching either. Working out the symbolism was in my field of knowledge. After that, I'm just making it up, except know just enough to say it does not qualify as an Old Master. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on the remaining questions will come by. :)
     
  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    It has some of the characteristics of an etching, but it is quite smudgy. I think it is a later copy, and not by the original artist, unless he forgot that it is the fairy's hand on her own knee. It seems the copyist could not decide if it was a hand or tendrils of some sort.
     
  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I suspect it's a lithograph.

    And good research to everyone!
     
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