Teeny Bronze Elephant Okimono

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by scoutshouse, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Sorry about that, but better to know. :(
     
  2. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    No, mine isn't fake - that was one that they answered back in 2017 :)
     
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  3. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    :banghead::hilarious:
    Sorry I misunderstood, then YEA!!!:happy:
     
  4. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    sorry been busy recently,do your elephant have the kanji word in its belly?
     
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  5. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    No, @Silver Wolf

    It's on his foot... Two of his feet seem to be set up to attach to a platform or stand of some kind.(described earlier)

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  6. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    do the left foot mark looks like japanese kanji?and the right one is in latin alphabeth?if it really japanese okimono i think it should have at least one kanji word mark for this kind of bronze statue and usually the kanji word was used for the older production one without the alphabeth of course
    ,imho
     
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  7. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    actually i'm collecting some japanese antiques recently,and from what i knew i usually found the japanese bronze statue the older in form of chinese shishi or foo dogs or komainu,sometimes tiger also,i believe maybe they make elephant too,but dont know the elephants were made in old time or just past century because maybe the artist only make the common animal shape in japanese tradition in the past time and back in 19th century maybe elephant didn't exist yet in japanese people imagine :rolleyes: , imho ,but if the mark can be decipher it'll will be a great help to track
     
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  8. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    I don't know... I can't read Kanji - handwritten or otherwise.

    Only the left foot is marked. Here's the thread from Asian forums.com

    Reads 'Seiya' (せいや) in hiragana, a maker's mark of the workshop of Genryusai Seiya in Tokyo. Date ca. 1890-1900.

    I did see せいや on the piece below yesterday - identified as Genryusai Seiya - too hard for me to match up.

    Guy

    Sorry if I confused earlier. I included one they identified as Genryusai Seiya, and one fake.
     
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  9. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    thanks for the information,the guy seems knew a lot about the elephant!maybe it used to be attached on wooden base?
     
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  10. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Yes, either alone or part of a group... Have you used that site before?

    Thanks for checking in, @Silver Wolf :)

    Where are you located?
     
  11. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Wow - found this fascinating Genryusai Seiya piece on Mutual Art: Large Animalier Bronze Basin

    An animalier is an artist (not a sculpture!), mainly from the 19th century, who specializes in, or is known for, skill in the realistic portrayal of animals.
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    Pretty wild, huh!?
     
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  12. Silver Wolf

    Silver Wolf Well-Known Member

    i thought i ever visit the site before to checking my imari duck and found that's not japanese but 20th century hong kong imari,:hilarious:

    i'm in indonesia scout!
     
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