Tintype of two little boys - how old?

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Bookahtoo, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Can anyone give me a date for this? The younger one is still in a dress, the older one has graduated to trousers.

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  2. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I'd say they were 2 and 4.
     
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  3. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I think the older one has some buck teeth ! Are we sure that isn't a little girl ?
     
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  4. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    Book, do you want to smack him, or shall I? :woot:

    I am not all that good with children's clothing, but if you held a gun to my head, I would 1880s/'90s (real precise, eh?).
     
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  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I'm going with late 1890s or early 1900s... Could be way off, though.
     
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  6. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Franklin D. Roosevelt 1884:

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  7. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Book, really? Wow, I knew little boys wore dresses, but didn't know the clothes would be that indistinuishable and feminine.

    Was there a rationale to why they had little boys wear things that looked like women's clothes?
     
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  8. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Well - I got the photo off of wikipedia.....

    I'm not sure about the clothes thing. My view is that from a practical standpoint it is easier to change babies and toddlers when they have dresses on, and easier to train them. I'm sure there is a larger cultural reason however.
     
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  9. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    That makes sense. Maybe, too, that way they could hand down clothes to younger relatives regardless of sex?
     
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  10. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    I think you had best take into account FDR"s mum - that branch of the Delanos were a bit wacked - as opposed to the branch that produced Laura Ingalls Wilder, et al. And James (NEVER Jim) Roosevelt was no prize either.....................
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Early Children's Attire
    Before the early-twentieth century, clothing worn by infants and young children shared a distinctive common feature-their clothing lacked sex distinction. The origins of this aspect of children's clothing stem from the sixteenth century, when European men and older boys began wearing doublets paired with breeches. Previously, both males and females of all ages (except for swaddled infants) had worn some type of gown, robe, or tunic. Once men began wearing bifurcated garments, however, male and female clothing became much more distinct. Breeches were reserved for men and older boys, while the members of society most subordinate to men-all females and the youngest boys-continued to wear skirted garments. To modern eyes, it may appear that when little boys of the past were attired in skirts or dresses, they were dressed "like girls," but to their contemporaries, boys and girls were simply dressed alike in clothing appropriate for small children.

    There are dates in the article below, but I'm not sure that it pins down the photo...???

    http://fashion-history.lovetoknow.com/fashion-history-eras/history-childrens-clothing
     
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  12. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Thanks for posting that, Komo.
     
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  13. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Once women began wearing bifurcated garments, men gradually became insecure in their traditional roles of domestic dominance, realizing that the end of their long-cherished but admittedly artificial societal superiority was fast approaching. This directly resulted in the stock market crash of 1929 as well as the Hindenburg disaster of 1936.
     
  14. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    and the Great Depression
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you mean my ex wife ?
     
  16. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    ...just one of the many men deeply troubled by female garment bifurcation was an unemployed Austrian house-painter named Adolph (full name withheld in compliance with the Austrian Citizen's Privacy Act of 1919.)
     
  17. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    Spring - you so seldom venture into levity, but when you do, it's spot on! LOL!
     
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