Rheinpfalz MCM Porcelain What are these pieces

I was told on the eBay pottery board that the mark on the bottom was for Oscar Schaller & Co. and was used between 1951 and 1962. Also called Winterling-Bavaria. Someone used the term "sammeltasse" and I have no idea why because I thought that was used for souvenir cups.
Anyway, that is what I know. What I don't know is what these two pieces actually are. I would say sugar bowl and creamer but the carafe/vase type piece is 10" tall and 3" in diameter on the bottom. That's a lot of cream. The bowl is also large but sugar bowls used to be large. It's about 3 and 1/4" tall on the high side and 2 and 1/2" on the lower side. The top opening is about 6". Good sized pieces.
I would like to sell them but without knowing how to describe them it would be useless. If anybody has any thoughts I would much appreciate knowing them.
Thanks in advance

 

Hi,
A lot of stuff was made in the 1950s to be more modern. Yours looks like a typical creamer and sugar from that period. Nice that they remained together.
I sold a small dinner set from the 50s which every piece looked like everything would spill out. Years later I was visiting a friend and she and I were invited to a couple which were her friends. There was my 50s dinner set! It was so weird that when I commended on the set the people laughed. Said their daughter bought it for them for their anniversary. I laughed because I remembered the name of the girl who bought it. So 15 yrs later I got to eat off the set again.
greg

 

Re: "Oscar Schaller & Co. / Winterling-Bavaria" ... It's Winterling. Hold in mind that Schaller went out of business 1917 and was continued as Winterling *brand*, hence claiming that the anufacturer was "Oscar Schaller & Co." is nonsense in this context.

Side note: it's origin is not Bavaria but the Palatinate area of Germany as the "Rheinpfalz" items were made at the Winterling factory in Bruchmühlbach.

Re: "Sammeltasse" ... that name/term only belongs to the often found triplets consisting of coffee cup, saucer and cake plate and does not match these items.

And I will be darned if that tall piece is not a vase

 

Hi Chris,
Thanks for the report on the vase I figured it was strange for not having a pour spout.
greg

 

I thought perhaps carafe or vase but strange that it has the matching bowl. Could not imagine anything that big as a creamer. Love the juxtaposition of "atomic" elements with the large gold flower.

 

re "Sammeltasse": allow me a general remark for all non-German-speakers.
the term "SammelXY" was introduced to give cheaply-made, second to fifth class products the pretence of being collectible. of course the exact opposite is the truth.
whenever you see something like Sammeltasse, more often Sammelteller etc., and you are NOT A LOVER OF VALUELESS GERMAN KITSCH, then jump into the next trench; because as sure as whatever - especially on ebay and amazon - you will be bombarded by the next heap of that stuff...

 

Thanks for expanding on that. Now should I be insulted that these items were called "kitsch" on the eBay board or was that person telling the truth?

 

Vase gets my vote. I wonder if this isn't culinary, but part of a dressing table set.

 

That's an interesting thought.

 

I've seen sets with a vase, covered cotton wool bowl, pin dish, maybe a little tray to put it all on.

 

"Now should I be insulted that these items were called "kitsch" on the eBay board or was that person telling the truth?"
depends a bit on the circumstances. kitsch is normally used pejorative, although there are items that look kitschy for us today that weren't in by-gone eras; just think of those swung red lips that ladies had on old Karlsruhe porcelain.
I personally would call your items kitsch.