Primitive Chinese Ginger Jar an' Cover? Rich Green Glaze

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  1. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    This is the first utilitarian ginger jar in my (admittedly limited) experience. In my youth these were all hi-fired, brightly decorated, invariably dome-lidded white porcelain. A few were Cloisonné, one of which I still have. None appeared to be, as this one does, a functional vessel for storage an' transport of preserved foodstuff.
    It's 4" high including the cover, which is 2 3/4" diameter, 5/8" deep. The jar is ~4" wide at the shoulders, with a 2 3/8" rim. The interior is also glazed. but with a thin, brown 'sealer' material, poured in, sloshed around an' dumped out. That interior shows the jar was made in 2 parts; the upper, above the shoulder, was applied to the hex body. The unglazed cover an' the jar appear to be of the same coarse-grained clay. Together, they weigh ~14 ounces.
    First, is it in fact a ginger Jar? Was ginger stored an' transported in such vessels? Was it, as is now widely available, sugar-dried; crystallized? Then, how was the cover secured to the jar...I'm supposing some manner of wax seal, 'tho no remnant remains of it. An' last, this looks like an old design, not that my example is necessarilly ancient; how far back in Chinese history do "ginger jars" go? Thanks for lookin'!

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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  3. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  4. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Sincere gratitude, SIS...Certainly mine had a cork, an' a label, an' reed/wicker wrapping at some point. Now so neatly cleaned as to be devoid of age clues...sigh.
    All's well, though...I have a good idea what it is, which was my goal. It's not gonna be for sale, at least in my life. Thanks!
     
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  5. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Ah, I love these things. I have a couple myself that I bought locally for pennies. Nice that you have the lid! AFAIK, these things may still be made today, but some are true antiques -- but nearly impossible to tell.
     
  6. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    This jar pops up quite regularly (have a couple myself). Rarely see it with a lid. The one with the lid and wrapping has to be really rare.
     
  7. Owliza

    Owliza I really DO keep my tree up a bit too long...

    Into the 2000s you could buy candied ginger in such jars in Victoria’s Chinatown. If I recall correctly, they used red plastic mesh to keep the lid on and maybe had a paper label folded over the lid? I will have to take a look and see if they still sell them.
     
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  8. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Quonley's? I haven't wandered around Chinatown for ages. Must do so soon.
     
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ha,,,,all the years I went to Victoria....I never went to Chinatown.........sad...:sorry::(
     
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  10. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    It's (almost) never too late, komo...
     
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  11. Owliza

    Owliza I really DO keep my tree up a bit too long...

    I got them a couple of times in Fisgard Market. Qonley’s was always my go-to for black cotton slippers! You ought to check it out. It’s quite pretty these days. Not quite as many Asian business, much to my chagrin. My in-laws are Chinese and it is getting harder and harder to buy ceremonial supplies in town.

    It’s waiting for youuuuuu!
     
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  12. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    It was great the the Lion Dance was performed this year for the first time since the pandemic. You used to be able to get some really neat stuff for "cheap" in Chinatown. I bet lots of ceremonial supplies are being sold online now.
     
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  13. Owliza

    Owliza I really DO keep my tree up a bit too long...

    I’ve checked online but have yet to find the specific items my MIL prefers. So we buy up what we can when we find it . My mum tells me about a cool “junk shop” that was there when I was wee that was just stuffed with old things. Might be in Chinatown tomorrow. If they have the jars I will have to get one and share a pic so we can see the new variation of this old beauty!
     
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