NEED HELP PLEASE: VERY OLD SILVER CUP? Latin Markings? VERY INTERESTING!SEE PICS!!!!!!

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  1. Chon

    Chon New Member

    I need help as to what this piece is and what language is written on it. it appears to be very old silver cup of some sort. 4 movable flaps? and what does it say? IMG_9348.JPG IMG_9350.JPG IMG_9351.JPG IMG_9352.JPG
     
  2. Chon

    Chon New Member

  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Hard to see the inscription as a whole, the style is consistent with what might be the date 1704. More likely pewter than silver, I'd say.

    Can you transliterate the inscription as best you can?
     
  4. Chon

    Chon New Member

    wow thanks for the quick response. I do believe it to be silver based on the light weight and detail.
     
  5. Chon

    Chon New Member

    I will post another pic as a whole and I really appreciate the help.
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The problem with a picture is that I'd have to rotate my computer to see the thing the right way up. Can you just write the letters.
     
  7. Chon

    Chon New Member

  8. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

    It looks kinda "church-y" to me but having spent plenty of time trying to stay awake in Catholic masses, I don't think it's something of "ours".
     
  9. Chon

    Chon New Member

    I believe it is spanish . someone above has mentioned the year 1704 however I would love to know more
     
  10. Chon

    Chon New Member

    ok new pics are up
     
  11. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I can see bits of what could be Latin but I cannot read it from the pictures which may be just my eyesight. Start at what looks to be the date and write out the letters. V is usually U and I can be J but don't worry about that, just write what you see. o may be puctuation.
     
  12. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Interesting piece, but seriously, it's not really sensible to keep posting more pictures, please just take a few minutes and write down the letters. As already suggested it's much easier for you to read them than to expect folks to try and discern the words in their proper order from multiple images on a computer screen, not too mention trying to see them clearly through the tarnish, shadows and glare ...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  13. Chon

    Chon New Member

    Cheryl I am new here. Not trying to annoy anyone so I apologize it the pics are too much. I will write down the letter shortly
    Thanks an advance for any help
     
  14. Chon

    Chon New Member

    here is what I can decipher:
    "juana de llamas para el culto divino a 1704. este brasero lo izo por su de voz"
     
  15. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Welcome - you will find many people here willing to help you, but you have to do your part too. Measurements are also quite helpful in determining an item's use...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  16. Chon

    Chon New Member

    Could this be a Brazier?
     
  17. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I am sure Gila will read the Spanish for you.
     
  18. Chon

    Chon New Member

    Thanks Cheryl,
    I am more than happy to help. this cup is about 5x 5 inches
     
  19. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Very helpful, tells you that it's a brazier...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  20. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I am sure to butcher this but here goes.....

    Juana de Llamas translates to Joan of Flames (Joan of arc?) ... for the worship of the divine 1704 This brazier is for your voice.

    Translated lo izo to is but not sure that is quite right.
     
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