Featured Antique Japanese Sword Handle

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Soki, Mar 26, 2023.

  1. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    Hi folks,


    this is a handle/hilt/tsuka of a japanese short sword? and I‘d like to know more about it.

    It’s definitely antique and probably dates back to the Meiji-era (1868 to 1912), late 19th century, but thats only a guess.
    Made of ivory and presumably carved out of one piece, very three-dimensional and sculptural.
    It’s about 15cm long, weighs ~174g and has a circumference of ~13.5cm.
    There’s many obvious and some subtle symbolism / storytelling, but I cannot decode anything. The dragon and the strange wolf-bear-dog creature catched my „western“ eye.
    On the Inside there’s hard wood and residue of skin/bone glue.

    Would love to hear your opinion and thought on this one.

    Thanks a lot,

    Simon
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Can't help, buy boy is that cool!
     
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  3. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    :shame:Isn't it?
    It’s a really nice piece, amazing craftsmanship and so much details,
     
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  4. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    C'est Magnifique...Merci!
    Damn fine pics, too...

    How, where & when acquired?
    Gotta be a good story in that lovely bauble...
     
  5. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    very nice.
     
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  6. baltojoe75

    baltojoe75 Well-Known Member

    Totally jealous! That is an amazing piece of craftsmanship.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is stunning, amazing craftsmanship.
    I think it is a Japanese macaque, also an important symbol in Japan. There seems to be a religious theme.
     
  8. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    A large part of the appeal (for me, anyway) is that it's not just an okimono...but looks to have been purpose-made to be used; with the highly-crafted an' strongly evocative representation of perhaps mythical individuals an' creatures as secondary considerations.
    What the blade an' other accessories must have been like is hard to imagine...but they all were sure to have been of a kind with this tsuka.
    Overall...what a Masterpiece!
     
  9. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Wow,beautiful detail! Very cool indeed.. What’s the story with this? Where’s the rest of it?
     
  10. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    The creature appears to have a long tail, which the macaques don't. Perhaps it is a Japanese Tsushima leopard cat or Iriomote cat.
    Tsushima_Cat_001.jpg


    Or a mythological animal.
     
  11. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    Thank you all for your replies!
    There’s indeed a long tale, so Japanese Tsushima leopard or iriomote cat is a very good guess.

    I sadly don’t have much information about this beautiful piece. It has been aquired incomplete like in the pictures in France and I‘ll hopefully get some more information about it soon.
    I‘ll keep you up to date:)
    The incompleteness is pretty sad, because the full story of the carvings remain unknown. Would be super nice to see them. The scabbard was probably much longer. The size would be like this piece:
    https://www.sworder.co.uk/auction/lot/181-a-japanese-carved-ivory-short-sword/?lot=424692&sd=1

    Those japanese bone/ivory carved short swords where pretty common in the 19th century, but many of them seem less plastic and detailled. The piece above has very nice carvings, too.
     
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  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    It does look nice.

    I suspect not a sword hilt simply because there seems to be no way to anchor it to a tang. Maybe made after the Meiji restoration when the producers of swords, sword furnishings, netsuke and the like turned to non-functional carving of objects still based on the old forms.

    Maybe things like this were produced to affix to a sword on display, but it seems to me that when blades are displayed, the tang is exposed - the display is all blade, and only blade.
     
  13. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    You’re right!
    The piece has a pretty wide circumference and therefore isn’t very functional and practical. Maybe more a piece for representative purposes. But a sword hilt is my best guess, the one in the link above is pretty similar.
    The attatchae display thing is a great guess!
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe a scabbard ....not the hilt..?
     
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  15. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

    Very nice
     
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  16. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    It's got nice,deep well-done modeling to it.
     
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  17. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    Had that thought, too. But the carvings would be upside down:)
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I don't see what you see.

    also....the interior slot is consistent to where a blade would enter......
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    missing that extra ivory cap...
     
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  20. Soki

    Soki Active Member

    Sorry!!! You‘re right! The direction is correct, because the sword is viewed upside down. It’s a scabbard missing the ivory cap, which probably loosened over the years and wasn’t reglued and then got lost/separated from the rest. It was stated as hilt to me, but it’s indeed the scabbard. So it’s not from a short sword, rather from a dagger/knife or kaiken? https://www.geishasblade.com/shop/tanto/kaiken/
    Thanks! That’s great to know. Makes it even more sad, though.

    According to my research this scenerio seems possible:
    https://medium.com/exploring-histor...d-with-samurai-swords-after-wwii-c0e821d74569

    Maybe a previous owner took only the scabbard and the knife was taken?
    That’s the cool thing about collecting antiques, the story behind every piece:)
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2023
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