Help with dolls please

I hope that I’m in the right forum but I can’t find a doll forum.

I specialise in ceramics but as I was getting outbid on everything at the latest auction I decided to go for these dolls. Of course I know nothing about them but they looked interesting.

The first is a half doll. The half doll part is about 15cm tall . Her arms are attached by wires and beneath her is a sort of wire cage . There is an impressed number.

The second appears to be made of paper mache (the head) . She is 40cm tall and has either GW or CW impressed. I found a German maker Gustav Wohlleben but this doesn’t look like examples of his dolls that I’ve found.

All help gratefully received.

 

@judy , @sassafras , @BoudiccaJones .

 

Not an expert but... What with the marcel wave, low, tweezed brows, and cupid bow lips, the half doll looks 1920s. Dress not original.

Debora

 

Yes I agree not original. I will probably sell without the dress and the strange wire frame.

 

the wire frame probably fitted over a jar (on a dressing table )
although looks like it's been "refurbished"..maybe it's rusty underneath

 

I removed the dress.

 

Or perhaps she was meant to fit over a roll of toilet paper?

 

Neat! @Bookahtoo got it. She's a boudoir doll, but the not the kind that sits on the bed that most people immediately think of. Sometimes you find these with a "cage" under the skirt and a socket for a bulb to make her in to a lamp, sometimes they're phone covers, some are candy boxes, etc. These girls got around! It's hard to know what her use was without her original clothing. What she was wearing looks to have been made in the late 1970s/early 80s. I'm sure she's grateful to be out of that dress.

Can you get a straight-on pic of the markings on the other doll's neck and a close up of the face? There are a couple of maker's that I can think of that could be possibilities.

 

Thank you. I will do that first thing tomorrow

 

Here are the photos @sassafras

 

She came with a sister who I assumed was by the same maker but seemed unmarked. I’ve now found that she is marked. Could you help with this one too please @sassafras ?

 

Don't know either of them off the top of my head, but I'll pull some books today and see what I can find. @judy might want to take a look at this new girl too. She's a cutie!

 

The arms are also replacements.

 

Could you show more of the dolls back, the one in red might be
Walther & Sohn

 

Thank you. Unfortunately I can’t get to see more of the back as the clothes are too tight.

 

I can't add anything that would help.

I checked my books on half dolls, and none show a wire frame like this.