Suspicious Limoges Mark

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lisa K., Mar 2, 2024.

  1. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    Hello,
    I recently purchased this box at a small sellers antiques booth. I was quick to purchase it because I thought it was a Limoges at a good price.
    After getting a chance to see the stamp clearly , I was suspicious of the markings.
    It has EB R. Limoge with numbers.
    Has anyone ever seen this mark ?
     

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  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    May we see the whole box, please?
    And I thought LIMOGES was typically spelled with an S at the end. I, too, would be highly suspicious, though I'm no expert in it.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2024
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Limoges is a place, not a maker's name.
     
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  4. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I agree with those above "Limoge" instead of "Limoges" IS highly suspicious. I also would like to see the box itself. It's not unusual to find Limoges boxes with decorator stamps but this looks like a mark meant to deceive. The quality of the box itself and the decoration could tell us quite a bit more.
    Don
     
  5. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    It kept saying my file is too large. I made the picture smaller.
    Thank you for the input so far!!
    This box is roughly 6.5” x 4”
    3.5” high
     

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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Very recent transfer ware. It could be from John Q Random factory in France, but they wouldn't have misspelled the regional name. I'd be thinking this had a Made in China paper label that fell off.
     
  7. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    Here’s another angle
     
  8. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    Sorry, I struggled to find a picture it would accept
     

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  9. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    I found an item on google lens which looked like the exact pattern so I saved the sticker that was on theirs. This may help as well.
     

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  10. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    Here is the item which they are not describing as Limoges.
     

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  11. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    more pictures
     

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  12. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    Last one
     

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  13. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Since it was made in Italy it isn't "Limoges" which is a place in France.
     
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  14. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    Still a pretty box especially if you like cobalt. :) I'm most used to seeing glass paperweights with that label but nothing with a Limoge mark. Interesting.
     
  15. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

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  16. Lisa K.

    Lisa K. New Member

    I thank you all for your input. I have fallen down a rabbit hole for the last couple of days , searching in different ways for the source of this box. I think many brilliant minds are better than one. I agree it’s transferware. Koscherk Brothers is a good lead. They were importers with goods from Europe. It’s possible this is from them. The R. Limoge signature may be the name of the maker or a ruse to resemble the name. I agree that it’s a beautiful box and I will enjoy it regardless. A beautiful trinket box with a mystery
     
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  17. Poppies

    Poppies Member

    I found a lot of items with the same mark but instead of R. Limoge it says R. Capodimonte.

    https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/capodimonte-music-box-cigarette-carousel-1042-c-3904c39855

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/116002...how_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details

    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/capodimonte-vintage-musical-carousel-1869482203


    And the link with the Koscherak Bros. appears also here:
    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-capodimonte-b-numbered-1754740565


    Could the R. mean "Reproduction" ? -->
    R. Limoge = Reproduction of Limoge
    R. Capodimonte = Reproduction of Capodimonte ?
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2024
  18. Poppies

    Poppies Member

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    Last edited: Mar 6, 2024
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  19. Chris Marshall

    Chris Marshall Well-Known Member

    I've stumbled across either "Reproduced/Reproduction" a few times but then again eBay PowerScammers probably prefer "Real" :)
     
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