German and Chinese Vase

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by mr2real, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. mr2real

    mr2real Active Member

    I think the baluster vase is Chinese but in not sure how old it is. I couldn't find anything about the German mark either. The Chinese piece reminds me of another piece that was identified in here as Liling Ware. Any thoughts are appreciated.

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  2. mr2real

    mr2real Active Member

    Could the baluster vase be Japanese given the Nippon style beading?
     
  3. mr2real

    mr2real Active Member

    Here's some better cleaned up pictures of the baluster vase. I just notice looking on the inside that the top 1/3 of the vase was attached separately during manufacturer (not sure what that means). The vase also has a significant lean which isn't very noticable. The texture of the porcelain in the sides and base is a unglazed bisque, it has a texture similar to relief molded English stoneware. I still don't know what type of animals these are but I suspect beavers. I'm starting to think this piece is older than I once thought. Any keywords that can point me in the right direction is appreciated.


    PS. The inside of the mouth is glazed, unlike the body.
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    they look like toads....& the bumps on the vase likely feel like a toads back !

    I'd call it a toad vase.
     
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  5. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    I agree with komokwa - I thought they were toads too (despite the tails). They might also be salamanders. There have been a lot of stuff coming out of China the last decade or two featuring applied frogs/toads. I see them listed all the time as McCoy and sometimes Weller!

    I've been this thread at least a half-dozen times looking at that German vase. I haven't been able to locate the mark. I've seen that type of ware listed as tokanabe when applied to Japanese wall pockets. I've always thought the wall pockets were produced between WWI and WWII but I can't back that up with a reference. The wall pockets, at least, are tough sells. The colors wear off easily and they seem a bit crude compared to their porcelain counterparts. I suspect the tokanabe pieces were a fast and easy production that could be sold cheaper than the porcelain pieces. The same thing may be going on with your vase. The design reminds me of some Bohemian glass vases and perhaps this was produced as a more inexpensive substitute.

    Sorry, I've typed a lot of words and didn't really say much! :rolleyes:
    Don
     
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  6. mr2real

    mr2real Active Member

    Thanks for the replies. I've seen the modern Chinese toad pieces you are referring to. I don't think that is the case with this vase. This piece is much lighter weight and made from a different material than the modern pieces I've seen (they sell them in a local decor shop). Also, I've never seen a modern Chinese piece with a beaded design. I know the lady I purchased it from and she can attest for about 30 years of age. I can't find anything even remotely similar. I posted on the Asian Art Forum, so I'll update if I get any news.
     
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