Featured 19th century cabinet plate?

Would love to learn about this plate. Thanks

 

Dude, your plate is lovely.

 

Thanks, Yttli!

 

Dude, your plate is old tyme-y, not old time. Don't know marks but most likely early 20th century. Someone else with greater expertise is sure to come along with date range. (The images are 18th century, by way.)

Debora

 

Appreciate it, D. I'll take 1900s antique any day of the week! Can you tell me more about the ladies pictured?

 

Very Pretty .. LOVE the green and gold !!
... Joy.

 

Thx, Joy!

 

May be copies of period paintings or interpretations of. Here's a couple close from same period which is Rococo -- Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire and Marie Antoinette. Their hairstyle, by way, is called a hedgehog. Isn't that wonderful?

Debora

 

There is another mark I forgot to show.

 

Thanks. Yes, that is a wonderful, aptly-named hairstyle!

 

I believe the C A is for Charles Ahrenfeldt of Altrohlau. An import company.

This is from a Worthpoint listing. I can't see a mark so don't know if the one on the cup would have matched yours. But believe this may be what you have.

" Charles Ahrendfeldt & Son porcelain - Stara Role, Czech Republic (Altrohlau, Bohemia, Austria) & importer New York City. Ahrenfeldt was a New York importer, as well as owning factories in Czechoslovakia, Paris, & Limoges, France. 1886 the decorating studio was established operated by Charles Ahrendfeldt & Son in Altrohlau, Bohemia, Austria. It was called a porcelain factory, though porcelain was never produced t It was sometimes called Carlsbad China Factory & the product was advertised as "Altrohla Ware." In 1899 production included table & household ware. 1910 Bosshard & Co owned and operated the company, 1920 the owner was Eberl, Mosch & Co., 1925 the owners were Alfred Moschl & Ferdinand Hein. After 1926 the factory only decorated souvenirware. 1929 the factory was owned by Anton Weidl and it was known as "Gloria" Porcelain Manufacturing. 1949 the factory was nationalized into Starorolský Porcelán "

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pair-charles-ahrenfeldt-altrohla-austria-cup

 

Your plate IS VERY lovely!!!!!!!! I tried to enhance/enlarge your mark on the back of the plate, but the image I used doesn't show up the gold.....if you can get a sharper image, will try again......

 

Thanks, CC. I like to tag my items, in case I eventually decide to sell, and so my family can know what things are worth if I should pass. Do you think it's safe to label as late 18/early 1900s and worth $50-100?

 

Thanks, AQT. Will upload pics shortly.

 

Those are the best photos I can get. Am wondering if it was a sigi at all.

 

I must admit, I would never call this a "cabinet plate" I would expect it to be maybe hand painted, hand decorated and much better quality.

 

JMHO.
to circumvent copyrights the Limoges company stamped Altrohla instead of Altrohlau and exported to the US where MZ (Moritz Zdeckauer) stuff was still in demand after having been taken in by Hutschenreuther.
the green is very typical of Limoges.
https://www.archipel.paris/manufacture-ahrenfeldt

 

I was thinking the same.

No
Might be early 1900s. For today's market, that is way too high. I think it is a serving plate, not a cabinet plate.
I also think it was decorated for the import company. So not necessarily of high value to begin with.

 

I agree with cluttered and popsycat. A cabinet plate would be decorated so that the ladies would both been seen right side up when the plate was either hung or leaned up in the cabinet. As it is, they would not. Plus that big empty undecorated circle is also a big clue.

 

I can't vouch for the info but this person says that mark is 1886-1910 and shown on a pitcher. I think the other mark on yours may be just a paint smear.

https://www.justanswer.com/antiques/bicba-altrohla-austria-numbered-pitcher-trying-find.html

This is a porcelain pitcher imported by Charles Ahrenfeldt and Son

of New York. They used this mark on items imported from Altrolhau, Austria

between 1886 to 1910. The numbers on the bottom are inner-factory shape and paint numbers.