2 old? mini jugs

I found these two pottery mini jugs (in Holland), about 5 cm high, unglazed. Could be stone as well, but not very likely i thing and not very cold to the touch.
They reminded me a little bit of european jacoba jugs. They are very warped however, but maybe just because they are so small. Throwing on a wheel might be difficult in this size. One has 3 seals with a crest with a star on it and atop the crest a hemet with elaborate feathers. Very flat bottom with stripes, maybe from wire cutting it lose from throwing wheal?
Do these mini jugs have any age to them? If yes, what century, produced where?

 

Very cute.
The original 'Jacoba kannen' were made in the German Rhineland, Siegburg (just across the border from Maastricht) was famous for them. But as far as I know, they had a 'thumbprint' base. I am sure there is a proper term for that.
Anyway, this is what I mean:





The 'potties' will be able to tell you more.

 

Yes, i was aware of that difference. These jacoba jugs also generally have wider necks, like the examples you put in.

 

The general shape is more like the later jugs, made from ca 1600-1800.
Ca 1600, both also have crests, like the one on the left in your photo:



The shape of yours could be in between the two periods, so very roughly 1400-1600. I don't know if they are old, as a child I had a miniature replica 'baardman', the original dated from ca 1650.
Others will know more.

 

The bubbles on the bases worry me. They do look like casting holes, you can mix all sorts of powders with resins to get a stoneware/clay finish. The one on the right looks as if it has a seam line too from a silicone rubber mould. The fact you say they are warm to the touch too. I can’t be absolutely sure but these are all indications of casts.

 

I see what you mean, you are probably right.
Don't worry, no big shock. Just wanted to know one way or the other.

 

I'm not a potty, & had never heard of these little flasks before, just someone accustomed to looking at things closely. Both, but especially the one on the right, look like the bottoms are a different material from the walls & were a separate piece, not continuous with the walls? Probably I don't know enough about potting technique, but when I have seen someone throwing a pot, it has been drawn upward from a single piece of clay. Would be interesting to see the bottoms of the 2 later specimens AJ shows.

 

Alas, no luck. The last one is in Museum Het Valkhof in Nijmegen, Netherlands.
We have a lot of these lovely antique German Rhineland jugs in this country. The Rhineland is next door, so to speak.

 

What were these used for? The elixir of life? Olive oil? The first of the older ones you've shown us also seems to have a slight bend in the neck. I can see this as making it easier to pour from vessel, so maybe deliberate, not a flaw?

 

They were used for wine and beer.

 

I don't think so, but it does look like it is sawed of or shaved flat (except for the air bubble holes). But this could also be caused by the thread to cut of the thrown pot from het wheel.
However, I have never seen a pot with such a flat bottom before. But I also never saw such small jugs before, and couldn't find some on internet. I don't know if you could make a small jug like this on a potters wheel.

 

"They were used for wine and beer".....

Sorry, but that "ain't" much wine OR beer!!!!!!!

 

Thinking from the look of some of them that they were made using the coil method, that some have been smoothed out more than others. The bottom would then have to be a separate piece.

 

I can show you the bases of a few similar ones (partials anyway). Sometimes my reference collection comes in handy.



Also the base of an older ruffled footed jug.



and another