Featured 2 Paintings bought in Budapest in 1984

ok I know the pictures of the paintings themselves are not that good. This house is jam packed and poorly lit. But I have the paperwork unfortunately bought in Budapest so I think this is all in Hungarian. Can anyone translate
TIA, Bryan

 

Although you have all the papers, which is good, Id try to find out what the forint was in dollars in those years to give you a first idea.
I know from personal relatives that ALL paintings were looked at first before export was allowed, but only if of no interest to hungarian museums. So practically all paintings were third layer or below.
are there any remarks or even seals on the back ?

 

Download the Google translate app and upload these pictures. It will automatically detect language and translate it into your selected language. You can also use the Google translate website on your desktop

 

Example first picture with text. It is indeed Hungarian. The text of thw first picture reads

-D Building Exhibit Group name of the applicant and the authorizing body for the 1984. movement of goods for the foreign exchange of cultural value with a change of currency. A 3/1977. (II.29.) Of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I hereby authorize the following subject (s) from abroad: 1./01vash.:. Safflower, male portray, .60x5.2.5 ie, Kettoe zero hundredth Pt., In the middle of the ear Attached: .1.db photo.

 

Hi Bryan,
Can't help with the translation, but I do love the frames. Any idea on the age of the paintings?

 

That's really good info to have!

 

will get pictures of the back, but it will be a few days. I know the portrait has some German stamp on back I think the scene only has writing in pencil

 

the portrait is most probably Münchner Schule.

 

sooo, found a site with historical exchange rates. 2500 Forint would have been 51,6 $ on 12 June 1984.
http://fxtop.com/en/currency-conver...SD&DD=12&MM=06&YYYY=1984&B=1&P=&I=1&btnOK=Go!

 

Here are pictures of markings on back

 

Here is signature on old man

 

Kellermeister (cellar master) original Kolb. plus linen cloth looking new.
makes me think it's a copy from the era when bought.

 

Never judge a book on his cover. The stretchers look older than the canvas. It could have been relined with other canvas to the back in a later. They did and still do this today with old paintings.

 

did you find a painting named Kellermeister by a painter named Kolb ?

 

No. Just pointing out options. We are here to learn.

 

do you have any idea what the paintings value is today.

 

I,m no language expert but I would think that “Kellermeister” is German ?

 

No expert here but my first thought when scrolling down was that they looked newer. Paint is so vibrant on first one. Hope I’m wrong.