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Featured 20th pair 9" satsuma export vases

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by charlie cheswick, Jun 13, 2023.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    hi folks

    picked up this pair at local auction as they were going for cheap
    im quite pleased with um though for the price
    good size 9 inches and no damage
    cant find the mark on gotheborg
    stamped foreign
    definitely think 20th century, not sure what part

    any info or thoughts appreciated

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  2. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

  3. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

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  5. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking that these maybe Chinese or other copies of satsuma style. The crazing into glaze looks forced and not typical of normal satsuma crazing. The mark on the base doesn't strike me as being satsuma either even though it has the satsuma shimazu mark on the side as a decoration. I maybe wrong though and often am
     
  6. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    Interesting, thanks mate, the marks a bit big as well innit

    Their decorative if nothing else
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member


    if you look at these two examples you can see that the crazing is more natural and subtle, more typical of satsuma...
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  8. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Items from Japan and Germany were also marked "Foreign" after WW2. However, I think this may be from the earlier period as per gotheborg. I agree with Chinoiserie that the crazed glaze doesn't look correct for Japan, but does look more Chinese to me -- I forget the name of the glaze technique, but the crackles are larger and often have darkish edges to the crackles. Also, I'm getting a faint deco vibe from the scalloped edges of the decorative scenes.
     
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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    interesting thanks kworld. yeah ive had a few of the chinese pieces before, cracklelure, this type of thing right ?

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  10. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I've come across them before. Square brown mark on the base? Yes they seem very collectable.
     
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  11. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    yeah, that example wasnt mine, but ones ive seen before have had that brown almost satsuma looking mark on them

    these were mine and didnt have any mark

    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/chinese-blue-white-vases.62360/

    didnt sell to badly either £120 on an offer, and smaller
     
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  12. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    A nice pair indeed. I think they forced the crackle with this type too but there is something about them that appeals. The age certainly helps and the quality of the decor.
     
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  13. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    Good and interesting information. Thank you
     
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  14. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Yes. I thought it was dehua, but that's blanc de chine. Wish I could remember -- senior brain!
     
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