835 silver question

In my new pile of ‘costume’ jewellery are two strings of real pearls one with a 935 silver clasp.
I’ve been Googling trying to find out when this mark was used in order to date the pearls. All I can find is that it’s European silver, commonly German but no dates as to when it was used.
Any help please or guidance to a useful website!.
Thankyou

 

Thanks INH No makers mark sadly.

 

could you show a pic - as sharp, clear and fresh as young Brigitte Bardot ?
problem is that many countries didn't ask for more stamps on small items.
in Switzerland they used 935 also on pocketwatch housings because they were pee'd off by the English with their 925 fetish.

 

Brigitte may be a moment as she needs a good clean.....

 

especially when it comes to politics...

 

She’s had a shower and is spiffy.

 

can't place to script to one of the countries, sorry.

 

All dressed up and nowhere to go!
Thankyou for looking
Do you know if 835 still used today?

 

no. 835 was a funny thing anyways; it was used by the Germans and the Swiss listed it under "800 and above" to circumvent problems with exporting. since 1933 it was strictly 800 or 925. furthermore the Swiss always put a few thousands more into it when it was for an important market... the rest was sniffing your fingers...
open the pdf here.
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/de/hom...ntrolle/amtliche-pruefung-und-stempelung.html

here ze German Artikel from 2015.
§ 2
(1) Auf goldenen Geräten darf der Feingehalt nur in 585 oder mehr Tausendteilen, auf silbernen Geräten nur in 800 oder mehr Tausendteilen angegeben werden.
(2) Der wirkliche Feingehalt darf weder im Ganzen der Ware noch auch in deren einzelnen Bestandteilen bei goldenen Geräten mehr als fünf, bei silbernen Geräten mehr als acht Tausendteile unter dem angegebenen Feingehalt bleiben. Vorbehaltlich dieser Abweichung muß der Gegenstand im Ganzen und mit der Lötung eingeschmolzen den angegebenen Feingehalt haben.

which means that in theory you can mark 800 and more at your own pleasure but would most probably get all items officially tested before ready for selling. the big silver companies have a right to mark themselves - which is a privilege they don't want to lose.

 

1888 til now, although they started switching to 925 in the early 1970s, I think.

My guess is your little Brigitte is German (also Birgitte), ca 1920. What do you think, @kyratango , @Ownedbybear ?

 

Thankyou- so standard cultured pearls?

 

I would say so, but I have to add, they were rather expensive in those days.

 

That clasp certainly looks 20s ish. How long are they? And yes, cultured ones when they first came out were costly.

 

"Einen gesetzlichen Zwang zur Stempelung gab und gibt es aber nicht."
"Reichsstempelung: Die Kaiserkrone (Bügelkrone) steht für das Deutsche Reich, der Halbmond für Silber, die Feingehaltszahl wird in Tausendsteln angegeben und muss „800“ oder darüber betragen"
is there anyone ready to translate with google please ?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silberstempel#Deutsche_Silberstempelung_ab_1888

 

Reichsstempelung roughly translates as a national mark. Very roughly.
The national mark isn't obligatory, which is why many German pieces are marked with the fineness only. Nice and easy for the manufacturers, a headache for us collectors.

 

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that the Germans have no law they can enforce. but it stays true what I wrote above, that's the reality on the market and for fabrication.
thanks for the translation, feeling a bit weak at the moment, I smell a whiff of snow coming.

 

So am I, but there you are.

Take good care of yourself.

 

I also think it's German. The .835 fineness would typically date from the 1920s or later, some manufacturers used it past the mid 20th century, it's often found on Modernist jewelry, as well as other silver, and I know prolific maker Christoph Widmann, probably best known for their version of Hildesheimer Rose flatware, used it into at least the 1980s...

As already said, German silver, after the 1884 law passed and then became mandatory in 1888, was required to be at least .800 fineness, assay was not required, marks were not required, but the crescent & crown Reichsmark indicated it met the standard, and it was stamped by the makers, the reason there is such a wide variety of different Reichsmarks (will say that every piece of German silver from the late 19th century or later that I've had tested by XRF spectrometry, including Hanau, met or exceeded .800 or the stamped fineness). Among the numeric stamps that might be found on German silver above 800 are 830, 835, 925, 935, and 950...

~Cheryl