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Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by rhiwfield, Jul 26, 2018.

  1. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Looks to have been a slap-up dinner at the Midland Hotel (Manchester I think) on 16th December 1919.

    I think one is Nathan Laski

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  2. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Looks like a Mabel Laski a few names above Nathan. Possibly his wife?

    One of the names looks like Margaret Nalson. Unusual surname!

    Update: Owner of the menu was Dorothy Quas Cohen. Here is a page about her husband from a genealogy site. Scroll down for his obituary, which mentions her name and includes J.P. after her name: https://www.geni.com/people/Philip-Quas-Cohen/6000000001647155022
     
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  3. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    I think Mabel is Nathan Laski's disabled daughter.
     
  4. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    "which mentions her name and includes J.P. after her name"
    Jewish Princess ? :wacky:
     
  5. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Doubtful... I thought of that also.

    On the other hand, Justice of the Peace ... doesn't seem likely but I actually don't know what a Justice of the Peace does in the UK.
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    3rd down looks like Jessie Lawton (not that I have any idea who that might be.)

    I was just speculating on "Mandleburg" when you posted, INH.
     
  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    4th from the bottom starts with Frederic, but that surname is a mess.
     
  9. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    problem with these names is twofolds. liberal Jews that wanted to integrate changed their names or were enforced in certain parts of Eastern Europe by the authorities to do so. as many were influenced by German culture they chose German names and not Polish ones. just think of the pletora of Mandelstamms, Goldbergs and others.
    and then there's the second step of Anglification.
    so Mandleburg could have started as Mandelberg - which still exists though in ruins - and then the ending was changed.
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My last name is anglicized Eastern Prussian, i.e. a Polish/German hybrid that I'm reliably told was most likely originally Yiddish. Even though triple-great Grandpa "fixed" it no one can pronounce it to this day - five consonants in a row'll do that to you.(LOL) No wonder Polish Jews changed their names; they were being kind to their children and the poor ignorant locals.
     
  11. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    I do not think that - outside the jewish community that is - there are family names with linguistical roots in Yiddish. rather the other way around - Yiddish is a hodgepodge of all the languages that were around in the old east. besides the Baltic languages, Polish, Russian there was Masurian in widespread use, which is in itself a funny mixture of older German and Polish dialects.
     
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  12. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Next to bottom is Burnham I think

    Which is probably this Levy-Lawson

    But his wife was Olive and daughter Dorothy olive so it doesnt seem to link to No 3.

    BTW a JP is a magistrate dealing with minor criminal cases
     
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  13. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Thank you!

    Seems like here in the US I mostly hear about them conducting weddings. I guess they preside over some court cases here, too.

    Here is what Wikipedia says about them in the U.S.:
    In some US states, the justice of the peace is a judge of a court of limited jurisdiction, a magistrate, or a quasi-judicial official with certain statutory or common law magisterial powers.[43] Some states have special qualifications or unique features for the office.

    The justice of the peace typically presides over a court that hears misdemeanor cases, traffic violations, and other petty criminal infractions. The justice of the peace may also have authority over cases involving small debts, landlord and tenant disputes, or other small claims court proceedings. Proceedings before justices of the peace are often faster and less formal than the proceedings in other courts. In some jurisdictions a party convicted or found liable before a justice of the peace may have the right to a trial de novo before the judge of a higher court rather than an appeal strictly considered.

    A justice of the peace also performs civil marriages.
     
  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yup, JP is a magistrate. It's a volunteer role and you do not need to be a lawyer. They can't conduct marriages, you need a registrar or whatever for that.

    Manchester has a largeish Jewish commnity of VERY long standing. They were and are well off and back in the day had extensive connections with the textiles and garment industries. Most of the ones I know are of Russian origin, but from way back. Some anglicised their names totally - one of my closest friends was Harris before she married, but her great great whatevers came from Russia in the early 19th.

    The Midland is a splendid red Victorian wool or cotton hotel. It went a bit shabby for a bit,but got refurbished a few years ago. Lovely place, part of the whole show off municipal and commercial centre that shows just how prosperous 19th C Manchester was.

    Nice bit on names here: https://www.avotaynuonline.com/2008...-of-the-russian-empire-by-alexander-beider-2/
     
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  15. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Interesting! Thanks for the information.
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    You're welcome. I always say I was raised Jewish Catholic. ;)
     
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  17. LIbraryLady

    LIbraryLady Well-Known Member

    My Dad was an Irish Catholic atheist and my Mom was a lapsed Jew. Back in the 50's my sister and I were oddities. In elementary school I was asked several times to resolve the equivalent of major fights/disputes about the 2 religions. I loved to consider and then give my ruling, and for some reason kids listened to me. More than one physical fight was stopped when I stated that Jews had not killed Christ.
     
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  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'm a Christian raised in a Jewish neighborhood, who has mixed Catholic/Protestant marriages up both sides of the family tree. One grandfather was an escaped (i.e. lapsed) Catholic, who had a Jewish last name. Around here mixed Catholic/Jewish households were pretty common, even back in the 60s.
     
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