Featured 9ct marked pin & necklace

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by charlie cheswick, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    hi folks

    managed to venture out today, theres a lady who leaves boxes of stuff ouside her house and sells everything for a £1 each, found these in a box of tangled costume pieces and bits and bobs. got a few other things as well.

    i guess the chain will have to be tested

    but was wondering the age of the pin, its marked 9CT Gold, but the pin part definitely doesnt look gold, so wondering if the whole thing is rolled gold

    any thoughts appreciated

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  2. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    I've had quite a few bar brooches like this, the pins are sometimes not gold but if marked like this the bar itself usually is. Nice milled edge to the stone mount as well. These are usually dated late Victorian to Edwardian.
     
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Very nice for £1 each, charlie.:happy:
    That millegrain setting on the brooch is seen a lot on 1910s-20s jewellery. I would say this is closer to 1910. The stone a sapphire? Small sapphires and rubies were popular at the time, and used as charming accents on delicate jewelry.
    Maybe the brooch front is rose gold and the pin is copper?
     
  4. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    awesome thanks Aj, ooooo ive missed ya !!!:happy:

    i thought amethyst because of the colour, but unsure

    thats good news all round though:)
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Missed you too charlie.:kiss:
    Now that you mention it, it does have a purplish colour.:) I was looking at the last photo, it looks more blue there.
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Nice find , Charles !!!:happy:
    Amethyst....my 1st thought too !!
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The pins were often steel for strength. Front will be gold, and I bet the necklace is too.

    I'd say a pale amethyst. That style of brooch often went on blouses.
     
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  8. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    thanks buddy:happy::happy:
     
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  9. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    just in case anyone is wondering who my new favourite person is, maybe the best thing ive ever seen

     
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  10. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    I just thought I'd drop in my personal experience of this as it differs a little from what is usually written. These bar brooches are not usually fully hallmarked in the UK, but the odd time I have had one with a dateable mark they have been nudging 1900 rather than being later. There may be other reasons, such as hallmarking for such pieces fell out of use towards the Deco, perhaps due to some regulatory requirements. Unfortunately I can't track my old ones down, they are archived off somewhere safe (doh!). I did find this though, dead link sadly, so can't check if it's correct.

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    Anyway thought it may be of interest. If I can track my old records down I'll post them as well.

    Agree on it looking like amethyst and poss a steel pin.
     
  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is lovely, Ce, and indeed much more an 1880s style than charlie's. Yours has an Aesthetic influence, charlie's has a hint of late Art Nouveau
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    (quoting myself, the umpteenth sign of madness. :hilarious:)

    I think I may not have been clear in that post. I didn't mean to say that all bar brooches date from that period, or even that all millegrain settings date from that period.
    My own bar brooches date from the Biedermeier period to the 1930s.
    But to me charlie's brooch does look like it dates from the early 20th century, the heyday of millegrain settings.:)
     
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