Age of this oil on board painting

Discussion in 'Art' started by eastcoastcurious, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

    FCA91916-AF52-49CF-83D8-5E8F90A41A8C.jpeg BE972AA6-4E4E-4742-83A2-C3C900491304.jpeg 50BC88BC-D426-495A-B29A-20EFCBA6A2F5.jpeg 44566B8B-6649-469C-B133-5C698A181342.jpeg F5F0B08F-772A-4253-995B-28B0B915C046.jpeg FCC1F2C6-6F87-491E-BA0C-59342B429697.jpeg Hello, could you please let me know how old this painting looks? It is unsigned and it appears to have some crackling. Thanks!
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It's very difficult to see. Would/could you post a photograph of it taken straight on including frame?

    Debora
     
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  3. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

    Here is a more direct one, thanks! 1CF39BA4-7459-44B7-9F23-8659E4AB50F9.jpeg
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  5. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I would not call that "crackling" but a texture that was applied to the front to paint on top of. The painting kind of resembles a print decoupaged to the front to my eyes, but that may be the result of it being so very highly varnished that it shines excessively. I don't think this is as old as it wants us to believe it is...
     
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  7. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    The frame looks older than the painting, I think someone had the beautiful frame and tried to make a painting that would look "antique" to fit inside of the center of it, but it doesn't even quite succeed at that.
     
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  8. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

    44FE5C05-2782-463C-9E38-6224874A53B7.jpeg Thanks, I thought that it might have been a print or a varnished picture
     
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  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I LOVE the frame, now that I see it better!!! Kind of Looks like Birds Eye Maple, I think........
     
  10. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

    70381BCB-00D2-42D6-AFB9-750F8DC40D0A.jpeg I thought it was maple too! Thanks. I'm still not sure if it's the varnish or the wood texture that's causing the image to warp, but the frame was my favorite part!
     
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  11. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Frame is mid 19th century. Painting is on a solid wood chamferred panel so could be as old as the frame. Also not unusual for these panels to shrink a bit over time. Would cause the kind of paint distortion seen, as well as not fitting the frame quite properly.
     
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  12. silverbell

    silverbell Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Brad. I Knew there had to be an explanation! That frame is just too nice.
     
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  13. eastcoastcurious

    eastcoastcurious Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
     
  14. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Brad

    Could you please explain how this could be "chamferred" panel wood? Do you mean someone sat there with a gouge and gouged all of the uneven surface intentionally? Why? I can understand how something done like this could warp out of the frame, just hard to imagine someone would do that intentionally to a wooden surface prior to painting a fine art painting? It looks so shiny. Not like antique varnish.

    I didn't see anything like this when I do a search for it and never heard of such a panel board to paint on.
     
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  15. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Apologies, maybe it is the photographs, but any 'chamferred' lines appear to be slightly bent and more look to be a comb of sorts pulled through glue or other gunky texture applied prior to painting. I could find no other example of chamferred wood used to paint antique paintings on top of. Not saying it's never been done before, but that I doubt that's what we are looking at here.
     
  16. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Back of the wood panel is chamfered.
     
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