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And idea what this is and where from?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by rhiwfield, May 19, 2018.

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  1. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Just bought this online, think it may be bronze with a removable iron insert, about 11 inches long and about 6 inches tall. Centrepiece for flowers?


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    rhiwfield, May 19, 2018
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It looks like a planter.
     
    Any Jewelry, May 19, 2018
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  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I'd be going all over that looking for a WMF mark. Are you sure the liner isn't zinc?
     
    Ownedbybear, May 19, 2018
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  4. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    I'm picking it up Monday or Tuesday, not sure what material liner is, just thought it was iron.

    AJ, yes it could be a planter, just thought it looked a bit ornate and might be designed as a centrepiece
     
    rhiwfield, May 19, 2018
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It might be zinc - usually used for liners meant to hold ice.
     
    Ownedbybear, May 19, 2018
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  6. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    C3D6F2BD-B4E2-4520-9733-5D69BAF42A78.png I’m having trouble finding it on the Charish site.
    I understand this is brass, but maybe pins down as French possibly.
     
    Huntingtreasure, May 19, 2018
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  7. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    Huntingtreasure, May 19, 2018
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  8. fenton

    fenton Well-Known Member

    Not Brass, but Pot Metal.
     
    fenton, May 19, 2018
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    More likely to be spelter than pot metal.
     
    Ownedbybear, May 19, 2018
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  10. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    I guess we are talking about the Chairish item, I dont think the OP item is spelter or pot metal
     
    rhiwfield, May 19, 2018
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  11. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    My FIRST thought was: Goodness what happened to the inside of it...... but reading further pretty much explained that.....I think:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
    Aquitaine, May 19, 2018
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  12. Huntingtreasure

    Huntingtreasure Well-Known Member

    I think so, do you want me to remove it?
     
    Huntingtreasure, May 19, 2018
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  13. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    No, thats fine, just clarifying :)
     
    rhiwfield, May 19, 2018
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  14. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Given the bloom on the liner I'm more inclined to think it is zinc rather than iron. But tbh, I'm looking to get a feel of the outer pot!
     
    rhiwfield, May 19, 2018
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  15. hamptonauction

    hamptonauction Well-Known Member

    Isn't pot metal also called spelter?
     
    hamptonauction, May 19, 2018
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  16. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Spelter Copper Zinc alloy or Brass and Lead

    Pot Metal white metal, or die-cast zinc—is a colloquial term that refers to alloys of low-melting point metals.

    The term Pot Metal is rarely used here.
     
    daveydempsey, May 19, 2018
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  17. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's used here for low-end 1930s costume jewelry and "lead" toy soldiers. It's whatever low-melt metal found its way into the pot, often lead, zinc and antimony.
     
    evelyb30, May 19, 2018
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  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yes, it's that bloom that makes me think zinc - I've several old baths and pots I use as planters and they look the same.

    davey, as Ruth says, if you collect costume jewellery, the pot metal term is quite common.
     
    Ownedbybear, May 21, 2018
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  19. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Just got it home, the liner is non magnetic, black coating with bloom internally and externally.

    Outer is probably bronze, made in two casting welded together

    length including handles 13", maximum rim height 4 3/4"
     
    rhiwfield, May 21, 2018
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    How hefty is the liner? It does sound like zinc. Bronze is good.
     
    Ownedbybear, May 21, 2018
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