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Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by bosko69, Mar 12, 2025.

  1. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Well here's old box 2, seems a bit more primitive than the first 'Inlaid' one. It's 4" by 6" by 9". Lined with red flocked paper and block or screened-printed paper.The one interesting thing about it is the screws look to have had their tips clipped,the hinges seem 'funky' and the veneer's thick.
    PS-Found this next to Box 1.
    Box Chp1.jpg Box Chp2.jpg Box Chp3.jpg Box Chp 7.jpg Box Chp 5.jpg Box Chp 6.jpg
     
  2. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    Nice box, what age do you think?
     
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  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks raver-high praise considering your museum quality containers !
    My guess (re OBB) would be mid-late 19th Century (I defer to You, OBB,Brad & Ghopper on boxes,wood & furniture-type items).
    BONUS-The lock/key work like a charm !
     
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  4. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    I would say 1810-1830, flame mahogany panel with maple?
     
  5. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    BTW be carful of the green paper, arsenic was used if original.
     
  6. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Another great box. I'm jealous of your finds. :D
     
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  7. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    I'd be thrilled if it was Empire to Regency Raver-my fingers are crossed !
    Thanks a ton for the input.
    *Thanks Mirana,I was chuffed to find 'em !
    PS- ARSENIC ! Can I neutralize it ?
     
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  8. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Uhm you can....not touch it? Or inhale particles of it. :doctor: It's danger is through absorption (primarily through inhaling and absorbing through your membranes). So I guess if you want to utilize the box you could cut something to fit over the liner in each section. You could do a plastic film to see the pattern, but I would pick something acid free and a thicker weight (so it doesn't move much). So probably something at an art or archival supply.

    Take care cleaning the dust out and wear protection.

    Interesting stuff...might have contributed to killing Napoleon. Scheele's Green wiki.
     
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  9. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Here's an 1874 book called 'Shadows from the Walls of Death-by R. C. Kedzie: Facts and Inferences Prefacing a Book of Specimens of Arsenical Wall Papers'.
    https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/kedzie-shadows/
    It features sample of dozens of samples of poisonous period wallpaper.Whatever sad souls printed,bound (or read ?) this volume-RIP. Arsenic wallpaper may have killed whole families.Needless to say CSI wasn't as sophisticated 150-200 years ago so documentation's somewhat sketchy.
     
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  10. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    It is that age, I'd be very surprised if it's later but I doubt I'm wrong.
     
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  11. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Awesome Rave-That's damned old for the States !
    Quote Mirana-So I guess if you want to utilize the box you could cut something to fit over the liner in each section. You could do a plastic film to see the pattern, but I would pick something acid free and a thicker weight (so it doesn't move much). So probably something at an art or archival supply.
    *Ditto-Some kind of archival Mylar might do the trick ?...or it might just remain an objet d'art.
     
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  12. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Thicker veneer = older. Hand cut. I’d think Georgian. The interior paper looks period, not sure the flock is. Good old lock too. I think the inlay is mahogany.
     
  13. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    It may well be made in the States, unusual to find that combination of woods in Europe.
     
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  14. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Some plastic films aren't acid free (and can vinegarize!) so just keep that in mind when you're researching and selecting.
     
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  15. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Georgian era U.S. made would be delightful.
     
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  16. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    No expert but I side with Georgian- always find that shield shaped key hole panel-forget its name again- on Georgian boxes.

    Georgian boxes are magnificent- my heart aches every time I see some Georgian boxes on ebay but sellers either don’t ship to China or use expensive ebay shipping scheme :(
     
  17. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Sham-it's really all the little details on these handmade but unsigned pieces,added up to a whole-that gets you close to an age or period of time. Add Hinges to Escutcheon to Veneer Thickness to Box Lining etc,these are our 'clues'.
    PS-I think many Ebay's Sellers profit is in the shipping,or a least a portion of it.
    Here's a few more Boxes to enjoy (I Don't own these example-just eye candy)-
    Georgian Apothecary Box.jpg Regency Sewing Box.jpg Escutcheons.jpg
     
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  18. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    I have 2 Antique Medicine Chests/boxes, this is one 100757104_693762764792033_5747957240497700864_n (1).jpg 99122069_693762978125345_6686516081252630528_n.jpg 99123211_693762558125387_7700635134889820160_n.jpg
     
  19. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Absolutely beautiful Raver ! May I ask,how big is your antique box collection ?
     
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    kentworld Well-Known Member

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