Featured Antique Chinese large cloisonne or enamel lidded footed round canister, what to call this?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Lucille.b, Aug 27, 2017.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    What would this form be called? I've been researching but can't find similar.

    It has three feet on the base, and is 8" across, 7.5" high.

    The lid has extreme damage, the piece was very inexpensive due to this. The bottom is in very good condition. Base metal seems to be brass (copper?). Under lid there is a square nut holding the handle on.

    Thanks for taking a look.

    Edit: The outdoor photo looking down into the piece sort makes the inside metal edge look much lighter than it is. Just had to much reflected light.

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  2. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Ginger jar?
     
  3. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Thanks. It is sort of bigger than what I usually think of as a ginger jar, but maybe that is it.

    Googled "cloisonne enamel ginger jar", most are did not have feet. Had to scroll down quite a bit until I found a footed one.

    That one was Japanese (only 5" tall) but had some similarities. I wonder if this is Japanese, not Chinese?

    Thanks, Rhiwfield.
     
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  4. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

  5. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Maybe you could search for cloisonne ball jar, sphere jar, spherical jar, globe jar, globular etc.... ?
    My first thought was Japanese too. But honestly, I don't know for sure.
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    Is that supposed to be a Phoenix Bird? That might help with searches too.
     
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  6. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    good tip using spherical, I found several on pinterest. Some have holes in the lids and are called incense burners, the ones without holes are called jars. None of them go anywhere, no sizes were given, all say the same time period. I'll keep looking and see what else is out there
    Here is one without holes on the top. This is the write-up for it
    Spherical Jar with Puppies This spherical-shaped jar has three legs and a cover. It depicts three puppies playing amid bamboo beneath a garden water spout on a pale blue ground. Namikawa Sosuke (Japanese, 1847-1910) (Enameler) 1890-1895 (Meiji)
    here is the pinterest link https://www.pinterest.com/pin/338966309429725308/ f2b8c3bc4460d5733734eeaec269d452.jpg
     
  7. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

  8. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

  9. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    OMG, Cx, that is it! Same handle, same size exactly. Thank you. :):):)

    Of course mine has damage on the top, but base is really good, definitely worth listing, maybe start at $99? This gives me a nice comparison.

    Excellent observation on that possible phoenix bird, Lauragarnet. :chicken: I was just looking at the whole piece as a bunch of random patterns. Will look into that. Thanks!

    And also noticed the seller's terms on that last link. Wowza. :wideyed: Any challenges in verification need to be made on letterhead from an auction house in 48 hours or returns are not allowed? Heavens!
     
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  10. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    It may be worth doing a bit more research to confirm the age and attribution.

    I feel it probably is late 19th century/early 20th but I would not claim that based on that sellers description.
     
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  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Agreed. Will continue to research. Thanks.

    It feels like it could be that old in the hand, the couple I've seen (spherical with 3 feet, some in different sizes) are all giving that date range, but will keep looking now that I have some key words.
     
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  12. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    What's the base metal. I was informed once that copper base is generally older than cloisonné on brass. I find that much of this stuff dates to the turn of the 20th c.
     
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  13. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Good question, Kent.

    I think the base metal is copper.
     
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