Any idea what this pewter mark is depicting?

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  1. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Can’t try to ID it if I don’t even know what I’m looking at! Any ideas? Kinda looks like a bird and maybe a double struck cross??

    Large, pretty pitcher. Looks like some coming from Italy and 50A91BCF-A824-46F9-8511-45ED104C4518.jpeg 2591547B-0040-4A9A-988D-CA5BAFEDE3DD.jpeg France maybe?
     
  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Thought at first it was a dove descending on the cross, then realized 'wings' would be weird for going that direction.
     
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  3. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Above the cross...a winged heart perhaps?
     
  4. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    Maybe it’s not double struck, cross Lorraine?
     
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Winged rutabaga I think.
     
  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I think it's supposed to look exactly like that, not double struck in any way. Lorraine is a good thought. I keep finding it described as 'patriarchal' unless I specifically ask for Lorraine. Wonder if those flared ends have any meaning.
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Enlarged....but looks like a WELL WORN mark!!! Whatever it is!

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  8. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    Ok. What's a "winged rutabaga"?? We've got a lot of political "ratbags" in parliament but none have wings.
    Ahhh got it ...a winged turnip. Scuze my culinary ignorance.:bag::bag::bag::bag:
     
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  9. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Yeh it doesn’t really look like a bird, it just looks more like a bird than it looks like anything else.
     
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  10. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Oooh wasn’t familiar with a cross Lorraine! It didn’t technically look double struck just didn’t look like anything else I’ve ever seen. Thanks for the idea!
     
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  11. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

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  12. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Perhaps... I’m not seeing the heart, but perhaps.
     
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  13. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Ahaha!
     
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  14. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Yeh I agree on the cross Lorraine being a good lead. I didn’t think this was literally double struck. Just had that general appearance for lack of a better way of describing it at the time.
     
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  15. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Seems odd to me that it’s so worn. It’s in a very protected area that would be unnecessary to polish and nearly impossible to receive wear otherwise. Yet there the wear is.
     
  16. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

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  17. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly STAY SAFE The worst prison is a closed heart

    I did have a look through some marks books but didn't find anything I thought was right so I'd hoped someone else might know it. I haven't tried Googling yet.

    Here are photos of the most relevant marks but really only the Czech one even looks close to me and it's not very close.

    Many of these marks are quite old and my impression is that this isn't a particularly old piece so hopefully there are others out there with identified marks.

    From: Pewter Marks of the World by Stará

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    From: Poinçons d'Etain by Tardy

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  18. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    WELL, another thought then, if not well worn, maybe just POORLY STRUCK????
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just discovered this was never posted. I meant to help you out.

    upload_2020-6-18_22-59-4.jpeg with wings.
     
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  20. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Is it up inside the base? That's the only place I can figure out that would fit the description...
     
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