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  1. Fox403

    Fox403 New Member

    [​IMG][/URL][/IMG] Hi All

    New to this, but picked these up from a second hand shop only item i could find about is the small cup on the right which is W.H.GOSS others no idea no marks i can see
     

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  2. Fox403

    Fox403 New Member

    The small cup on front left has glass marble in bottom with a topless lady in!
     
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  3. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forums!

    Those figurines are probably Straffordshire, but without close-up pics of them including pics of the backs and bottom, we won't be able to tell if original or modern reproductions. As to those cups, I haven't a clue for can't see a thing that is on the front, back or bottom. We really need pics of the bottom and straight on/level views of the cups.

    Pictures in message really ought to be in "Full Image" because those using media like smart phones and iPads can have a hard time clicking thumbnails. I took the liberty of posting your pics in the message. I also cropped and sharpened them.

    --- Susan

    FigurinesFt.jpg

    FigurinesBk.jpg
     
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  4. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Thank you LadyB for explaining to full image option. :)
     
  5. Fox403

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  6. Fox403

    Fox403 New Member

    i will get the hang of this thanks for the info :)
     
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  7. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Good work on posting the pics! At the moment I'm not sure of the figurines though the one with the hole, believe it is the one of 2 girls, isn't early Staffordshire because of the hole? That hole may be a slip casting. Staffordshire was not slip cast. Nowwwww.... Staffordshire may have a hole but it is very small. I have looked through several Staffordshire figurine websites and haven't spotted any of these 3 figurines. The one on the left, a dog, whose breed I don't know. Looks a bit like a harlequin great dane?? The middle figurine may be a reclining sheep. I haven't seen a Staffordshire sheep in these colors. I would have expected a bocage behind the one on the right of 2 girls?? Do wait for more knowledgeable folks to chime in. Following are websites on recognizing the differences between old and reproduction Staffordshire figurines:

    http://www.mystaffordshirefigures.com/reproductions-of-antique-staffordshire-pottery-figures.html
    http://www.antiquepottery.co.uk/p/information/fake-&-reproduction
    https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Staffordshire-Copies-from-China
    https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Staffordshire-Dogs

    As to the cups, I haven't any help on the one with the "marble" in the bottom. Like you know the one on the right is bu William Henry Goss. Around 1870 he developed a process for enamel ware. He produced heraldry.

    "William H Goss had invented an improved technique for the body and enamels for heraldic china and in 1873 registered a patent.

    W.H. Goss had been producing small vases and pots with the Arms of Colleges and Schools on for presentations."

    His son, noting the increase of travel by the common folks, came up with souvenirs items marked with the coat-of-arms and names of towns, this cup is probably one of those souvenirs. On the following web page about Goss, scroll down a good 1/2 way to the section "Goss crested ware." This section tells about the development of this ware or which this cup is one.
    http://www.thepotteries.org/allpotters/456.htm

    --- Susan
     
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  8. Fox403

    Fox403 New Member

    Great info Susan it gives me somewhere to start, with things like this a mark would make all the difference
     
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  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    As for the one with "a topless lady" in the bottom, I don't see that anyone has mentioned "lithophane" as a possibility. Mostly commonly (in my limited experience) found in Asian wares. You might want to google that term to see whether what you see resembles it.
     
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  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The Goss is indeed a little bit of crested ware. They used to be wildly collectible, but are now of minimal value unless they have an odd shape.
     
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  11. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    I bet you're right, Baker! Here is a link to Google images of naked women in the bottom of lithophane cups.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=lit...DbXDVLBHMzlynDyPzRioSCSwPnZDUO-tnERCOZph0oOOw

    --- Susan
     
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  12. Fox403

    Fox403 New Member

    Thanks for the help on here its much appreciated
     
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